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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:44 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I've been very lucky with seeing Smith etc over the years as I've not seen one bad gig in whatever number I've seen them.  The Fall wouldn't BE The Fall without Smith, that's not exactly a revelation, but the gigs have always been as much about the band as the frontman for me.  I don't go any more, mainly because they always seem to be sold out, I can't stand rammed gigs any more, it's my age.  The Fall are getting trendy, which is brilliantly odd
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting trendy AGAIN, that isn't a dig at anyone who hasn't seen them across five or six decades  I don't actually remember a sparsely attended Fall gig at all, now that must be wrong?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's all fair enough LD; you must have been stood near me- between mixing desk and merch stand? Not sure who was shitting themselves, but there were a few Barnsley lads in, judging by the accents.

Smith was well-behaved by his usual standards! Everyone who's had a say on the band's forum seemed to like it. Already looking forward to next year.


Thats just where we were Young Marx. The lad who was doing all the shiting was right in front of us, bald head, ear ring. There were a couple of lads just to our left who commented, might have been you eh?

I made a bit of a commotion in the lounge before. Had a spare ticket and the lass on the door who also works in jumbos said there was a ginger haired lass in the lounge looking for one. I found her and sold it face vale (£22) she seemed staggered that i wasnt ripping her off, all her mates actually appluaded me which was quite emabarrasing.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit LD, I'm just the four
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That does sound like me and me mate, Mr Doors.  I'm chimp's arse haircut with bins, he's vertically challenged.

I'm five decades as well - were you at Huddersfield Poly in Jan 78?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chimps arse haircut and bins ? What's that then ? The mind boggles. Bald and glasses I'm guessing

I'm taking a bit of a liberty with the 70s . The Poly had a real golden period of top bands during punk. Sadly it's never been built on and Huddersfield is an absolute dead water for gigs. Dunno why either. A university, good transport, 130000 people....?  We saw loads of stuff there. That night the Fall played we went down to see Sham 69. It was a Friday night Jan ' 78 i know for sure. I'd not heard of The Fall and was in the bar area, you could hear them but not see them. I caught about ten minutes when i got intrigued.

Next time was in Manchester, i think it was the Apollo but it might have been the Free Trade Hall. We'd gone over to see Penetration, that was a Friday night as well i can definitely remember. Lo n behold it was that supporting band again. This time i was more interested, maybe read about them in the NME which was the bible in those days.

By the time i saw them again and it can't have been that much later I was fully into them. Certainly the Witch  trials album was out which i loved with a passion and still do and i think the live album Totales Turns was so I'm assuming  1980/81. It was at the reggae club in town and i like to believe i was a bit responsible for it. Our band (Liberty no2 ) used to practise (liberty no 3) in the Fleece pub run by Babbsy who also managed the Reggae Club round the corner on Venn St ( now sadly no more but what a venue that was). He used to ask us what bands to put on and i told him to get The Fall. He also got Adam and the Ants, Cockney Rejects and a few more. Slaughter and the dogs i think with the Drones but that might have been Ivanhoe's, the old memory plays a few tricks especially from those days. Any way on they came and in about 5 seconds flat blew away punk rock and heralded in the next wave of brilliant music . That is my one overriding memory of the gig, that complete anti scene, couldn't give a fuck stance with that music like no other. It had all the traits of punk but wasn't. Like a powerful abstract of it. I was gobsmacked. I met a few lads down there I'm still good friends with including the lad i went to the Brude with. We all say the same thing about that gig. Magic and a privilege to have been there. I'm still having the 70s ones though.

While we are on it maybe you lads can clear something up. Did The Fall support U2 at Elland road sometime in the 80s. I'm certain i was outside the Peacock listening ( didn't have a ticket )   and they played a short set. I know who i was with so i know it was the 80s . A mate if mine says I'm talking ballocks which is entirely feasible but not on this occasion i believe .
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on the money Doors old chap.

Dome headed and bespectacled am I.

You're also faultless with your memory of that Sham/ Fall gig. Also playing were The Doll and The Prefects. Great night. Jimmy Pursey detonating a fire extinguisher by way of encore.

Not seen many other gigs in Huddersfield either; Sisters, Wedding Present, Fall again (about '86) maybe House of Love...not sure

Can't help with the U2 Elland Road support slot, but it sounds unlikely to me
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow they played around 86 ? Cant believe i missed that one but clearly did. Wedding Present at Poly about 1990? i was there and rather disgracefully got manhandled out by the bouncers. House of Love played the Town Hall, was there as well. Cant recall Sisters Of Mercy though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw them at the Ritz in Manchester Tuesday night. Not a vintage show by any means but still full on Fall. No Elena which set the tongues wagging despite her being part of the stage set. Just downstairs open at the Ritz but still a sizeable crowd at this excellent venue. Just five minutes walk as well from the equally excellent Knott Bar across from Deans Gate station.

Support band Cabbage were interesting, obviously local and a liberating attitude to body politics. The Fall came on about Five to ten and did a good hour. Not many songs but extended hypnoitic bouts of inventive guitar riffs that all versions of the band excell at. This current  line up especially. Mark was Mark ambling around the stage, twiddling amp settings,occasionally popping back stage for a glug, singing through twin mics and gurning towards the crowd.

A group of Young kids presumably students moshed with vigour as a girl held aloft plummeted to the floor. Hope she's alright as she went down with a bang. The band played on. Tuff life boogie, wise ol man and quit i phone i remember particularly well. The volume was unusually loud not that I'm complaining, it just intensified the barbed euphoric drone this band kick up as MES wails his brilliant uniqueness into it. Midway through the last song Mark taps the drummer on the shoulder and the pair walk off leaving the other two to finish it looking slightly bemused.

An encore of Sparta FC, easilly the best footie song ever de!ights everybody before Mark gets his coat and walks off.

Happy to announce the band has completely won me over again after the farce of the manc minster gig. At least two ace gigs since plus an album the band just keep on and on
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ex-Fall person fills in on t'radio. Thought some of you fans might be interested:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08bb9tb
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Dock. might catch up with that later. She's worth a listen to just for her chat. Will ne interesting to hear what she plays.

Off to see the band at the Belgrave next month. First band at the venue for me
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Off to see the band at the Belgrave next month. First band at the venue for me


Having put off seeing HMHB for about 30 years until a month or so ago, I'm now tempted to dip my toe in the water to see The Fall, despite the all too-frequent recent reports of shite gigs, before they errr... fall.
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Off to see the band at the Belgrave next month. First band at the venue for me


Having put off seeing HMHB for about 30 years until a month or so ago, I'm now tempted to dip my toe in the water to see The Fall, despite the all too-frequent recent reports of shite gigs, before they errr... fall.


Even if it's crap PM it's better crap than everybody else's crap
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I heard something last night at the Belgravia I've not heard before. Mark E Smith having a laugh on the stage. It was in response to something shouted from the audience about the support band not showing up. Lucky he heard him as well through the cacophony of feedback and hissing cackle of the sound system. It was chaotic at times but blimey this band cant half belt it out. Then a keyboard player appeared from nowhere. About the least likely looking Fall keyboard player you'll ever see as well. Looks of a boy band front man.

Mostly newer stuff, a few I've never heard before, no archive favourites but another ace Fall night and great to see MES back. First gig for me as well at this venue as well. It's alright but you have to go back downstairs for a proper pint as we found out to our cost at the upstairs bar


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