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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:49 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

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So there you go pop pickers. If you take one thing from this thread it's: Never send a nitwit like LD or Heyho to the United States to make a genre-defining travelogue/ music documentary about the history of black American music. Especially if you are interested in covering the musical traditions of New Orleans or the live career of Otis Rush. Because if anybody can fuck it right up its these two Knackerknobs. FFS!

PS Heyho, did you manage to find a bar showing the Super League match?


There was I, enjoying the various, as typical, posts that make this site worth perservering with, that often digress a bit off-topic, but otherwise are interesting/humorous/entertaining,/educational and makes this forum worth perservering with.

I am at a loss as to what might have aggravated such an unwarranted outburst.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dock wrote:
So there you go pop pickers. If you take one thing from this thread it's: Never send a nitwit like LD or Heyho to the United States to make a genre-defining travelogue/ music documentary about the history of black American music. Especially if you are interested in covering the musical traditions of New Orleans or the live career of Otis Rush. Because if anybody can fuck it right up its these two Knackerknobs. FFS!

PS Heyho, did you manage to find a bar showing the Super League match?


There was I, enjoying the various, as typical, posts that make this site worth perservering with, that often digress a bit off-topic, but otherwise are interesting/humorous/entertaining,/educational and makes this forum worth perservering with.

I am at a loss as to what might have aggravated such an unwarranted outburst.


It was meant to be humorous. Sorry for any offence caused to either party mentioned. It was meant to be banter. You've misinterpreted my post PM! It wasn't in anyway an outburst. It was meant as a piss take. I thought we all knew each other well enough on here for that kind of thing. Obviously not.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its bullying, that's what it is but me n H have formed a victims support group and are staying strong.

Most of the Blues was in South Chicago but by the end of the  '50s a big West Side scene had emerged with Otis Rush, Magic Sam and a young Buddy Guy at the fore front.

Otis Rush Double Trouble



Otis Rush I can't Quit you Baby (Live on TV, Soz I can't hep myself its brilliant)



Magic Sam All your love (and little interview)



Buddy Guy First time I met the blues



Buddy Guy When my left eye jumps


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dock wrote:
I thought we all knew each other well enough on here for that kind of thing.


Yes, quite. I'm glad to hear it was intended as humour, but it was rather ambiguously aggressively worded. My apologies for misinterpreting it.

Inspired by this thread, I've just been watching a few videos of Nine Below Zero. I thought I'd see what they're currently up to, and - lo and behold - they're playing the Brudenell next Friday. Anybody fancy going?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was lucky enough to see Jimmy Rogers play at B.L.U.E.S club a couple of years before he sadly died. Coincidentally Jimmie Rogers of the legendary country n western yodeling version of the name was a big mucker of Howling Wolf from down south. Wolf said he developed his "Howl" by trying to copy Rogers' yodel.

Can't make Nine below Zero PM, soz

Other great Artists around Chicago at the time were
Hound Dog Taylor ("I can't play shit bit I sure play it good") JB Lenoir, Luther Alison, Elmore James, Carey Bell, Big Walter Horton(aka shaky). Earl Hooker, JB Hutto, Snooky Prior, Jimmy Reed Pine Top Perkins, Otis Spann, Sunnyland Slim, champion Jack Dupree (who ended up living in Halifax) and Junior Wells not to mention lots of lesser known stars and countless other session men and women. Ill put some stuff up from all of them

Hound Dog Taylor , Give me back my wig



JB Lenoir, Talk to your Daughter



Luther Alison, Cherry Red Wine



Elmore James, It hurts Me Too


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A Bit more Elmore, The Sky is crying



Carey Bell, Last Night



Earl Hooker, Hooking (might stop you wondering where Clapton got his '60s sound from)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plastic Man wrote:
Dock wrote:
I thought we all knew each other well enough on here for that kind of thing.


Yes, quite. I'm glad to hear it was intended as humour, but it was rather ambiguously aggressively worded. My apologies for misinterpreting it.

Inspired by this thread, I've just been watching a few videos of Nine Below Zero. I thought I'd see what they're currently up to, and - lo and behold - they're playing the Brudenell next Friday. Anybody fancy going?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple Of Roundups before we move on from Chicago

Big Walter "Shaky" Horton , Blues Harp Shuffle



JB Hutto, Too much Alcohol, (Subsequently immortalised by Rory Gallagher  on Irish Tour I reckon)



Jimmy Reed , Honest I do (You'd be suprised how much of this bloke's stuff you know)



Pine Top Perkins , Pinetop's Boogie Woogie (Lest anyone thinks Jools invented it) I can only imagine the impact this had in 1928 when he first did it


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Snooky Prior,  Crazy 'bout my baby



Otis Spann (Another of Muddy's sidemen) T'aint nobody's business



Sunnyland Slim Tin Pan Alley (Subsequently a SRV staple)



Junior Wells Hoodoo Man Blues



Champion Jack Dupree (Got to put this Adopted son of West Yorkshire in) Shake Baby Shake

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Fuck me, what a time and place to be alive. What I'd give to go back to then for a few years with Dollars to spare, a liberal fearless attitude and a shiny big cadillac convertible

Not forgetting These two who need no introduction and went on to become worldwide influentail to everybody stars. Lest we forget where they started..

Bo Diddley Who do you Love


and a certain... If we're gonna go live and showy this fella he da man in the finest blues tradition



Right Where Next?  ahh i know
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Not all the migration headed to Chicago. Other Northern cities where there was work soon became populated with this new work force that brought their Southern culture with them. Blues scenes emerged all over '50s industrial America not least Detroit where a certain John Lee carved himself into greatness. Some musicians just take what they know, throw in themselves into it and create a unique music that is entirely their world. It aint just yer Zeps, Stones, Beatles Bowie etc. Blues artists have been doing it for nigh in 80 years now.

John Lee Hooker  tried to enlist into the Army in Detroit when he was 14 years old before being sent back home. He started in Memphis in the '40s actually, then Cincinnati then to Detroit where he settled for a while and embarked on a phenomenal recording career as well as playing live. The guy just cuts his own vibe. Best known for boogie shuffle type blues often simple repetitive one chord chugs  but what he puts into them stays with you forever once bitten.

For me he also produced some of the best country and folk blues going that often gets overlooked. He was "rediscovered" at the end of the '80s possibly due to a Jeans Advert that used his music that ensured whole new generations heard his music. I was thrilled to have a ticket to see him in about 2001 at the Bishopstock Blues Festival but unfortunately he pulled out at the last minute and sadly died shortly after.

Here ya go and again no apologies for the live clips. They are just too special to ignore

Hobo Blues



Boom Boom




One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer


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Meanwhile, back down South.

Recording enthusiast Samuel  Cornelius Phillips was getting restless with his job on a local radio station and started a recording career that would literally change history. His Studio at 706 Union Avenue in Memphis was finding its way with various artists including Blues artists when on the 5th July 1954 one Elvis Aaron Presley walked in and recorded some throwaway Bing Crosby Number before he and the resident band all clearly immersed in the local blues music started Jamming around after Midnight. Arthur "Big Boy" Craddup had already failed to make the charts with his song "That's Alright Mama"a few years earlier but it had obviously made an impression on the young future King.  To coin a phrase and indeed a cliché, The rest is History.  Elvis and Sam made a few more Blues records before Sam and Elvis morphed into Rockabilly and Sam sold Elvis to RCA.

Elvis Presley Milk Cow Bllues


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At the same time in Memphis Howling Wolf was slugging it out for the King of Memphis Blues title with a young blues guitar singing protégé called Riley B King soon to be heralded the world over as the Great BB King. Wolf moved to Chicago as we know and BB remained in Memphis

BB King Sweet Little Angel


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BB King, The Thrill is Gone with the incredible Bobby Blue Bland .(A bit showy but C'mon, its BB King and Bobby Blue Bland)


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Incidentally I was talking to Shaun n Si about our little spat with Otis Rush the other Night. I'd forgot it was Shaun who wound him up after the second set when he said it was shit. Si wasn't even there, he'd crashed out before we got into the place and went back to the hotel, the fecking lightweight. Mind you we'd been on it for two weeks by then. Think ive posted a picture of Me n Buddy Guy from teh same holiday. Got some ace ones with L'il Ed and his familly as well in Buddy Guy's Club. Its err quite clear we were all a tad "happy"
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to spend Friday night doing a blues compilation. 3 hours later and I had 12 songs in it and a realisation I needed to download a load more stuff.

Ended up with stuff like Little Red Rooster (Doors), Red House (Hendrix) a coupel of Johnny Winter numbers, a couple of Stevie Ray Vaughan. Then I tried to understand what I liked and put it down to it being 12 bar blues (the slow electric stuff).

So I am now in the process of downloading a load of stuff. Got albums by Roy Buchanan, Robert Cray, Harvey Mandel, John Mayall, Paul Butterfield, Alvin Lee, Jeff Beck, Blind Faith to listen to!

So LD if you know any bands that do good 12 bar blues - Red House being one of my favourites tracks in the genre, then please let me know.
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Most blues is "twelve bar" but i think i know what you mean going by the stuff you've mentioned.

Early Fleetwood Mac with Pete Green should be right up your street. As would some Albert King, Rory Gallagher, Gary Clark Jnr, George Thorogood, Allman Brothers, Son Seals.

Or you could wait till i finish my little oddysey through the Blues ages. Ill get to all that stuff eventually, and more
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Ended up with this playlist:

Alvin Lee & Ten Years After\Pure Blues\I Woke up This Morning.mp3
Big Brother & the Holding Company\Cheap Thrills [Bonus Tracks]\Ball And Chain.mp3
Blues Brothers\Briefcase Full Of Blues\'B' Movie Box Car Blues.mp3
Blues Brothers\The Blues Brothers Complete\Shot Gun Blues.mp3
Doors\Alive, She Cried\Little Red Rooster.mp3
Eric Clapton & Friends\Blues Jams\Blues Jams 1\Early in the morning (1999).mp3
Eric Clapton & Friends\Blues Jams\Blues Jams 1\Let Me Love You Baby (2000).mp3
Eric Clapton & Friends\Blues Jams\Blues Jams 1\Worried Life Blues (1992).mp3
Eric Clapton & Friends\Blues Jams\Blues Jams 2\Ramblin'have You Ever Loved The Woman (With R.Cray 1986).mp3
Eric Clapton & Friends\Blues Jams\Blues Jams 2\Third Degree (For War Child 1996).mp3
Eric Clapton\Blues\Blow Wind Blow.mp3
Eric Clapton\Blues\Early In The Morning.mp3
Eric Clapton\Blues\Have You Ever Loved A Woman.mp3
Eric Clapton\Blues\To Make Somebody Happy (1).mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Blues Before Sunrise.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Blues Leave Me Alone.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Five Long Years.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Groaning The Blues.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\It Hurts Me Too.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Reconsider Baby.mp3
Eric Clapton\From The Cradle\Someday After A While.mp3
Eric Clapton\John Mayall & The Blues Breakers Featuring Eric Clapton\Hideaway [Mono Mix].mp3
Eric Clapton\Me And Mr Johnson A Tribute To Robert Johnson\Kind Hearted Woman Blues.mp3
Eric Clapton\Me And Mr Johnson A Tribute To Robert Johnson\Little Queen Of Spades.mp3
Eric Clapton\Sessions For Robert J\Kind Hearted Woman Blues.mp3
Eric Clapton\Sessions For Robert J\Little Queen Of Spades.mp3
Harvey Mandel\Baby Batter\Hank The Ripper.flac
Jimi Hendrix\Are You Experienced\Red House.mp3
Jimi Hendrix\Blues\Electric Church Red House.mp3
John Mayall\Blues For The Lost Days\Blues For The Lost Days.mp3
John Mayall\Road Dogs\Short Wave Radio.mp3
John Mayall\Road Dogs\So Glad.mp3
Johnny Winter\Hey Where's Your Brother\You Keep Saying' That You're Leavin'.mp3
Johnny Winter\I'm A Bluesman\Sweet Little Baby.mp3
Johnny Winter\Let Me In\If You Got A Good Woman.mp3
Johnny Winter\Nothin' But the Blues\Everybody's Blues.mp3
Johnny Winter\Nothin' But the Blues\It Was Rainin'.mp3
Johnny Winter\Roots\Bright Lights, Big City (featuring Susan Tedeschi..mp3
Johnny Winter\Roots\Come Back Baby (featuring John Medeski..mp3
Johnny Winter\Roots\Dust My Broom (featuring Derek Trucks..mp3
Johnny Winter\Roots\Last Night (featuring John Popper..mp3
Johnny Winter\Serious Business\Murdering Blues.mp3
Johnny Winter\Serious Business\My Time After Awhile.mp3
Johnny Winter\Step Back\Killing Floor.mp3
Johnny Winter\The Progressive Blues Experiment\Black Cat Bone.mp3
Johnny Winter\The Progressive Blues Experiment\It's My Own Fault.mp3
Johnny Winter\The Winter Of  '88\Mother Earth.mp3
Johnny Winter\Third Degree\Mojo Boogie.mp3
Johnny Winter\Third Degree\Third Degree.mp3
Led Zeppelin\Led Zeppelin\You Shook Me.flac
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\21-Double Trouble.mp3
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\28-Walking by Myself.mp3
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\Blues with a Feeling.mp3
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\Last Night.mp3
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\One More Mile.mp3
Paul Butterfield Blues Band\The Elektra Years\Our Love Is Drifting.mp3
Stevie Ray Vaughan\Couldn'T Stand The Weather\The Things (That) I Used To Do.mp3
Stevie Ray Vaughan\Greatest Hits\Texas Flood.mp3
Stevie Ray Vaughan\The Real Deal- Greatest Hits, Vol. 2\Ain't Gone 'N' Give Up On Love.mp3

Shed load of Clapton despite the fact I have called in plasticy and processed in the past.
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You should try John mayalls blues breakers album with Clapton. Much as i love cream and Derek and rhe dominoes i think its Clapton's finest blues album
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I've started so ill finish, even if for just my own amusement  Wrap up the fifties before moving on.

Texas had already formed its own Blues style primarily using the Walking Bass line picked out with a thumb on an acoustic guitar. Started by Blind Lemmon Jefferson  amongst others in the twenties (that we'll get to in due course) the style for me was captured and personified by Lighting Hopkins (and later by Stevie Ray Vaughn)

Lightning Hopkins (Woke up this morning, probably the archetypal blues most people think of but classic Lightning Hopkins)



Lightning Hopkins, Black Cat Blues  




Lazy Lester (Another Texan influential bluesman) Im a Lover Not a Fighter


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Louisiana was also getting into the act with their version of Swamp Blues by the likes of  Fats Domino,  Slim Harpo and Lightning Slim. A definite Louisiana Style emerging taking in Creole Influences

Slim Harpo Im a King Bee



Lighning Slim Its Mighty Crazy



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been listening to Son Houses Library of Congress Recordings and a compilation of his called: Raw Delta Blues. This stuff is fucking magic. Totally draws you in as a listener. Son House you (were) da man!





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