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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:22 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Vote not Tory! They are quite clearly a bunch of cunts.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vote not Tory! They are quite clearly a bunch of cunts.

 


To the point and very informative.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall NOT be voting for the party who represents me in my local council 'cos they are cunts. So there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vote not Tory! They are quite clearly a bunch of cunts.


If that's a direct quote from The Corb I applaud the man! It would come over a lot better in PMQ's.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope everyone is happy. The country is officially fucked. I would have rather had old 3 wives allotmenteer in power than a hung parliament. Especially at the time of Brexit.

Really worried about things now.

So what happened:

Broadsheets bragging about a Tory landslide - none of us wanted that
May employed the worse political advisors in history (well modern times anyway) who told her shite which made her U-Turn and then not to appear on TV
Labour did their usual unsustainable bollocks about chucking more money in the NHS, schooling, hospitals blah blah blah let's all yawn
Terrorist attacks - that was the final nail in the stupid Tory coffin
Oh and Fox hunting came into it. WTF. We are in the midst of the worse terrorist times ever and that became a hot topic

Fuck me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Massive fuck up. She'll go down in history as Britain's worst ever Prime Minister.

England v Iceland all over again. Complacency compounded by poor leadership.

DUP - a bunch of religious zealots who still celebrate the Battle of the Boyne like it was yesterday, and have no interest in anything that goes on beyond their province.

And the Tories have to go cap in hand to get their approval for any legislation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a sit down and a cuppa Heyho. Nothing's fucked or beyond redemption. It's fucked up but not totally fucked. It's change. Might be messy for a long time but it'll all straighten out. I was quite energised by the result. It's shows that people are starting to question what exactly it is that politicians are supposed to be doing for their electorate, and the gains by Labour show that people have had enough of middle ground out of touch arseholes like May and Cameron. Corbyn's honesty has always been classy but yesterday was his day. All those naysayers from his own party and the media who moved against him can fuck right off. People aren't buying their self-serving shit they peddle anymore. For me, Friday June 9th 2017 was St Jeremy's Day. Well done that man! As for May going cap in hand to those regressive religious barmpots the DUP???? The Cons are fucked, they won't come back from this.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As some on this site will testify, on Wednesday I thought that there could well be a hung parliament. I've re-posted the heated debate with a certain Mr. Catcher below:  

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PM: I find it strange that Theresa May won't go toe-to-toe with Jeremy Corbyn in public debate, but reckons she can tough it out with the other 27 EU leaders. I'm not a political animal, but my (conspiracy) theory is that Theresa May doesn't want to win. The majority of parliamentarians don't want Brexit, but to ignore the result of the referendum would be political suicide for all concerned. Theresa May has not just been backing off, but acting scared, allowing Jezza to sneak up on the inside rail. Yes, he's not popular, but he's doing much better than most people thought. Perhaps enough obfuscation has been done to create a hung parliament? Then the remainder of the two year EU exit discussion period could result in no clear decisions possible. What would be the outcome of that? I read somewhere (and may be wrong) but the decision to leave the EU was not binding, and could be withdrawn. Which might be a suitable outcome for interested parties?

There again, there could be a huge Tory majority come Friday.

FC:  I think she called the election expecting a walkover and unequivocal support for her Hard Brexit. Now she's fighting for her political survival and looks rather scared.

PM: I reckon it was a deliberate plan, the last roll of the dice. She had been backed into a corner. Would you want to be branded in history as the person leading the charge into what could be economic carnage? She didn't have many options. Maybe collective blame/ tactical resignation gives her a way out?

FC:  you 'May' be right


On further reflection, why did TM trigger Article 50, then wait quite a while before calling an election? To eat as much time as possible of the 2 year discussion period?

So instead of a working majority government, we now have a hung parliament... the possibility of another election in the Autumn... maybe no clear outcome yet again ... more time wasted...

Being "forced" to jump into bed with DUP is even more brilliant in creating divisiveness on a different front. No doubt there will be demands and threats to end their support unless they receive specific government promises that will be impossible to meet due to the risk of agitating the Republlicans.

Triple gins all round for the Remainers...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dock wrote:
Have a sit down and a cuppa Heyho. Nothing's fucked or beyond redemption. It's fucked up but not totally fucked. It's change. Might be messy for a long time but it'll all straighten out. I was quite energised by the result. It's shows that people are starting to question what exactly it is that politicians are supposed to be doing for their electorate, and the gains by Labour show that people have had enough of middle ground out of touch arseholes like May and Cameron. Corbyn's honesty has always been classy but yesterday was his day. All those naysayers from his own party and the media who moved against him can fuck right off. People aren't buying their self-serving shit they peddle anymore. For me, Friday June 9th 2017 was St Jeremy's Day. Well done that man! As for May going cap in hand to those regressive religious barmpots the DUP???? The Cons are fucked, they won't come back from this.


Agree with that. It was a fantastic result, beyond my expectations. One of the best outcomes will be the dilution of influence of the right wing press and their off-shore, tax avoiding billionaire owners. The Mail, neatly described in The Observer as 'firing analogue bullets in a digital age'.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What seems to be lost in the political game that is front line politics is the fact that you and me elect these people. And collectively that means that the 650 MPs' are there to serve us, the electorate.

So I would have been far more impressed with a wall of silence over the stupid bitch PM and a 'we are going through hard times ahead, the country has voted for a Brexit so under the democracy we should all unite blah blah blah' rather than the cheap tacky politics and fucking smirk that has accompanied the resign resign resign.

Don't get me wrong any opposition party would have done that. But that isn't what politics should be about.

If it was mainstream politics I would have done what I have for the past 35 years and not voted but my decision to vote was a pure selfish one based on what help and support my local MP has given me up to now against an authoritarian and faceless set of cunts in power in my local council who are clearly corrupt and love building on green belt land.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wuz right PM.

I wonder what odds you could have got on a hung parliament? I'm not often speechless, but when I saw the exit poll results and the look of abject fear on Michael Fallon's face, I certainly was.

Apparently Murdoch's not happy with her so she's doomed.

We now all understand her priorities.

1 Herself
2. The Tory Party
3 The country

And certainty has replaced stability.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are supposed to live in a democracy (ok that is debatable). Unde rthis premise the country voted as a whole to leave Europe. The country has also, narrowly, decided to elect a government as we have now.

So dear prime minister grow some balls, stop crying and start leading the country. And Jeremy you smug fucking cunt remember that despite being in a safe seat you were elected by us the electorate and start realising this country is up shit creek as it is and doesn't need you trying to exploit the situation for your own person goals
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Heyho wrote:
We are supposed to live in a democracy (ok that is debatable). Unde rthis premise the country voted as a whole to leave Europe. The country has also, narrowly, decided to elect a government as we have now.

So dear prime minister grow some balls, stop crying and start leading the country. And Jeremy you smug fucking cunt remember that despite being in a safe seat you were elected by us the electorate and start realising this country is up shit creek as it is and doesn't need you trying to exploit the situation for your own person goals


I disagree H. I think JC has been a shining light of magnanimity since the election result. If the boot was on the other foot the Conservatives would be pouring scorn all over him but he hasn't done that. I think he's self satisfied but not smug. And rightly so too after the shit he's had to put with since he was elected as Labour leader.
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Heyho wrote:
We are supposed to live in a democracy (ok that is debatable). Unde rthis premise the country voted as a whole to leave Europe. The country has also, narrowly, decided to elect a government as we have now.

So dear prime minister grow some balls, stop crying and start leading the country. And Jeremy you smug fucking cunt remember that despite being in a safe seat you were elected by us the electorate and start realising this country is up shit creek as it is and doesn't need you trying to exploit the situation for your own person goals


I disagree H. I think JC has been a shining light of magnanimity since the election result. If the boot was on the other foot the Conservatives would be pouring scorn all over him but he hasn't done that. I think he's self satisfied but not smug. And rightly so too after the shit he's had to put with since he was elected as Labour leader.


You are totally right about of the boot was on the other foot. And that is what is annoying me most at the moment.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Gove the Toad back in the cabinet and The monumentally-loathed Jeremy Hunt keeps his post in Health. Talk about out of touch with the electorate!!! As the popular beat combo Paul Weller once sang in his popular music outing entitled 'Walls Come Tumbling Down':

You don't have to take this crap
You don't have to sit back and relax
You can actually try changing it

I know we've always been taught to rely
Upon those in authority
But you never know until you try
How things just might be
If we came together so strongly

Are you gonna try to make this work
Or spend your days down in the dirt
You see things can change
Yes and walls can come tumbling down
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beat No Surrender?

UK politics isn't so far away from the nonsense going on here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this new world of instant faceless communication i.e. the t'internet is having a lot to play and is very worrying with regards to how it can be used to indoctrinate people.

Let's take for example Corbyn and Mays recent contrasting visits to Grenfell.

Corbyn was very public with his visit - hugging local residents, the media with him all the time as he did it. An act of a genuinely nice person or one of a shrewd politicians using the situation for his own political progression. In contrast May does a 'hidden' visit. Is this one of a woman totally insensitive to things around her or one that feels the situation should not warrant public promotion.

I don't know the answer to the above and don't want to make any assumptions. But Yahoo does. It was straight away condemming May, calling her heartless (a quote from some jobsworth Labour councillor for a neighbouring borough whilst putting up loads of a compassionate pictures of Corbyn.

The power of the internet to sway public opinion is frightening!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gove used to work for Murdoch and his mrs still does.

Rupert wasn't happy about the result and told Theresa to give Gove a job or he would withdraw support.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who owns Yahoo or has UK influence.


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