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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote

That is the job of the stewards and the police and absolutely YES we should report the abuse to them.  But taking personal action against scum is a risk not only to personal safety but also to personal bloomin' liberty.  Next time we meet, please ask me about the scrapes I've been involved with trying to take a stand against racism.  At Elland Road and away from the place too.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the job of the stewards and the police and absolutely YES we should report the abuse to them. But taking personal action against scum is a risk not only to personal safety but also to personal bloomin' liberty. Next time we meet, please ask me about the scrapes I've been involved with trying to take a stand against racism. At Elland Road and away from the place too.


As I said in my first ranty post "Decent fans like you" mate. I know they are there. Just for me personally its my choice not to be anywhere where I have to associate or be in close proximity to those horrible bastards who chant words like nigger. Some of you lot can live with it but I can't its my own personal hang up.

I'll tell you how strongly I feel about it. If I heard the same when I went racing I'd stop going racing. And THAT my friend is saying something.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do people really racially abuse horses?!

More seriously Dock, it's a question I've struggled with for years.  In the group of mates who go to matches, one of them is racist.  We've been mates since school and he's not a raving fascist or anything but there again he is 'riddled' with contradictions, one being that he considers our black mate to be a mate of his too.  His racism is more about faith/culture than skin colour, which doesn't excuse it but what do I do?  He doesn't chant the bile we've been on about.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Frazier Cranium wrote:
That is the job of the stewards and the police and absolutely YES we should report the abuse to them. But taking personal action against scum is a risk not only to personal safety but also to personal bloomin' liberty. Next time we meet, please ask me about the scrapes I've been involved with trying to take a stand against racism. At Elland Road and away from the place too.


As I said in my first ranty post "Decent fans like you" mate. I know they are there. Just for me personally its my choice not to be anywhere where I have to associate or be in close proximity to those horrible bastards who chant words like nigger. Some of you lot can live with it but I can't its my own personal hang up.

I'll tell you how strongly I feel about it. If I heard the same when I went racing I'd stop going racing. And THAT my friend is saying something.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do people really racially abuse horses?!

More seriously Dock, it's a question I've struggled with for years. In the group of mates who go to matches, one of them is racist. We've been mates since school and he's not a raving fascist or anything but there again he is 'riddled' with contradictions, one being that he considers our black mate to be a mate of his too. His racism is more about faith/culture than skin colour, which doesn't excuse it but what do I do? He doesn't chant the bile we've been on about.


Re: Do people really racially abuse horses?

Think about it. Most of them are brown.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That is the job of the stewards and the police and absolutely YES we should report the abuse to them. But taking personal action against scum is a risk not only to personal safety but also to personal bloomin' liberty. Next time we meet, please ask me about the scrapes I've been involved with trying to take a stand against racism. At Elland Road and away from the place too.


As I said in my first ranty post "Decent fans like you" mate. I know they are there. Just for me personally its my choice not to be anywhere where I have to associate or be in close proximity to those horrible bastards who chant words like nigger. Some of you lot can live with it but I can't its my own personal hang up.

I'll tell you how strongly I feel about it. If I heard the same when I went racing I'd stop going racing. And THAT my friend is saying something.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it's Ull anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Housemartins London 0 Hull 4 was a damn fine album.

My mate played in a band with their drummer after he got out of prison*

*their drummer that is

Other famous people from Hull include Amy Johnson, Maureen Lipman and Dean Windass.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth from the unsuccessful contenders. Leicester, Swansea and somewhere else.
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Hull serait n'as jamais battu London 4-0
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite being part of giving Hull stick  over the years I too have never spent a great deal of time in the place other than the footy and rugby grounds. It's just football banter. My mate played for Hull FC for quite a few years and loves the place, always going on about what a great night out it is

The place deserves some luck and recognition. Like lots of other towns and cities it has fallen victim to trade and market changes, political bias and remoteness. MrsD had never been to Liverpool before it became COC . It made her want to and now she loves the place like I do. Hopefully it can do the same to Hull. One thing that gets overlooked with the COC award is that it actually does introduce different culture to lots of people who would never otherwise have experienced it. That can only be a good thing ?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a few places I've only ever been to in order to watch footie.

The only reasons I've been to either Hull or Manchester besides footie is for university interviews - despite getting decent offers, it was easy to decide to go elsewhere.

I've only been to Liverpool to see footie games.

I should probably be embarrassed.
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thought we'd have a few days in the current city of culture last week. Previous trips to the city haven't left a good impression neither have a few of their citizens whenever I've had the misfortune to bump into them. However, I've met enough decent sorts not to let that tarnish any views too much.

The train station is a good welcome with volunteers a plenty to help you and one of them pianos available to play that you see in many stations these days. What a brilliant inspired idea that is and goes to show what good things can happen when creative social planners think about how to make people feel good instead of how to rip as much money off them as possible. There was one lad who looked a bit terrifying with tattoos all over his face, a big plastic bag with all his belongings and clothes that looked like he'd had them on a month. He was deeply into his playing but no one other than us were watching and listening to his beautiful intense classical piano playing as I tried to imagine his story. What a great introduction to the city.

We couldn't check in until 2pm so we got some lunch. We tried a converted bank place but discreetly left almost immediately as it looked and felt terrible. 50 kinds of frozen fried stuff on the menu and music that made your ears close down. It was time to head straight to one of my selections as time was too short to waste on chancing anything. The Lion and Key in the old town is a superb old pub, oak panelled, reeking of history and absolutely superb pub style Fish n Chips with a herby mashed potato fritter thrown in along with mushy peas. What ore can a man wish for?. Ah yes a decent pint and there were plenty on offer including local brews. I had an American Style Pale Ale by Cathead brewery I think. Alas that was to be the best thing we ate for the duration of the trip.

After checking in we took a good long walk around the town. Strangely a few areas looked decidedly not ready for the Cities year in the spotlight. The main church was undergoing massive internal renovation making a visit hardly worthwhile at all and major road works were still underway in the centres pedestrian areas and park. Quite a few signs and information centres seemed to be targeting April 1st as completion date which did seem a bit foolish considering how long they'd had to prepare for this. Anyway, much of the city was spruced, polished, swept and a joy to walk around. Expansive spacious areas everywhere, not much traffic at all other than the major throughway and a plethora of grand old architecture. The Marina, estuary front and other riverside areas were a terrific mix of contemporary design , preserved history and civic pride whilst the locals set about their normal business amongst the smattering of tourists who gathered and wandered around them.

The Maritime museum was interesting and informative with a display of the famous sculptured poppies tumbling out of the top window onto the precinct below attracting much attention outside the building.

The Wilberforce museum celebrating the City's famous anti slave trade campaigner was especially engaging. As you'd expect, horrifying in its portrayal of this humanitarian  blight that is still amongst us but also incitefull if you studied carefully between the lines. How could people  possibly think it was Gods will to have slavery justified because he didn't appear to be against it? and just exactly what impact did American independence have on this countries anti slavery campaign?

The Feron Art Gallery was also excellent with some fantastic old European master works from the likes of Canaletto, Lorenzetti and Perugini. Some interesting later things as well from Hockney and Francis Bacon. Pride of place seemed to go to a Turner Prize type of thing immediately after the entrance. "Its just a pile of stones" whispered one school kid to his mate amongst the class of other smartly presented juniors being led about the place by enthusiastic teachers. Now technically that was incorrect for they were in fact pebbles not stones but y'know, out of the mouths of babes... as the expression goes.

Pub wise I don't think they get any better than Ye Olde White Hart and Ye old Black boy for authentic ancient drinking dens and the George was also dark oak panelled authentic and unspoiled but tragically all were let down by a distinctly bland beer selection. I had the fortune to wander into Ye Olde Black Boy whilst MrsD was shopping  where a gathering of Folk musicians were singing and playing. They asked if I played  and actually invited me to join them as I sat watching appreciatively. I duly did and we had a great time as two hours passed quite blissfully. They were still there when I brought MrsD back later and played another song with them. What a thrill it was. They were proper musicians, encouraging me and being very complementary on my plucking and singing efforts. I must admit the longer it went on the more confident I got and by the end I was really into it and could have played all night. Funnily enough after one song the lead man said it reminded him of a girl from Huddersfield he knew. Incredibly we knew her too, it was the sister of a good mate who has sung at a few of his house parties. Small world eh?

Fernley and Co was a contemporary craft ale place on the waterfront ad had the best ale selection by a country mile. A mix of Cask and Keg with the latter inevitably too overpriced. Atom Brewery are a local brewery and as good as anyone in my opinion. It was rude not to overindulge, so I did, a little.

Food wise the City was a massive disappointment I have to report. We did our research but if you aren't a fan of Panini wraps burgers etcetera then the city centre isn't for you. Service was a mix of functional to slovenly which I can take if the food is good but in our short stay we were both unimpressed. Happy to be corrected though and guided as we really wanted the city to throw up treasures we often find in other towns.

All in all a very pleasant trip. We both came back pleased we'd been and a much better impression of the place and its people. Oh, one thing they need to change and that is either get a bridge over the main road that splits the town or get the green walking light to appear more than a nano second every ten minutes for the pedestrians massing on the pavement contemplating a suicidal venture across it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*rubs eyes in disbelief at what I'm reading*

So you were over here? And you didn't even bell me for a pint? Or a free guided tour in which to maximise your time in Hull? WTF!

I was goin to do a thread on the city of culture but thought I'd get laughed at. There have been some brill things happening. Ferens Art Gallery is great after its 10 million refit.

As for the Black Boy and The White Hart I could've shown you ten more fantastic old pubs in the Old Town District.

Kin' ten minute train ride and I could've been in for a couple of jars. I haven't seen you since October 2015. You Fucking bastard! And that's my final word on the matter!!!!!

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Just kidding n' that, next time eh!
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The Sailmakers Arms is another good pub for live music. First time I ever went in was a sunny afternoon and there was a gang singing sea shanties acapella that made the The Beach Boys harmonising sound like Arthur Mullard.

As for eating out and restaurants. There are two massive streets with a myriad of different eateries of all nationalities. Namely on Princes Ave and Newland Ave just outside the centre of town.

I could have pointed you in the direction of both the pub and the thriving eating and drinking boulevards of T'ull if you'd pm'd me or texted or rang n' that. But you didn't. So fuck you and the Trans-Pennine Express you rode in on. Cunt!

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Isn't Leeds going for European City of Culture for 2023.

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Dock wrote:
*rubs eyes in disbelief at what I'm reading*

So you were over here? And you didn't even bell me for a pint? Or a free guided tour in which to maximise your time in Hull? WTF!

I was goin to do a thread on the city of culture but thought I'd get laughed at. There have been some brill things happening. Ferens Art Gallery is great after its 10 million refit.

As for the Black Boy and The White Hart I could've shown you ten more fantastic old pubs in the Old Town District.

Kin' ten minute train ride and I could've been in for a couple of jars. I haven't seen you since October 2015. You Fucking bastard! And that's my final word on the matter!!!!!

*flounces out*

















Just kidding n' that, next time eh!



HULL FEST!!!!!
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Er, well I didn't see it. So er, thats your fucking fault!!!!!!
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HULL FEST!!!!! HULL FEST!!!!!

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