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sheeps

Without Class

Liverpool.
Man. U.
Dalglish.
Ferguson.
Suarez.

It will never happen but it's time the F.A. took hold of this game of ours, it took the appaling scenes at what is billed 'the biggest club game in the World' for a number of men with enough experience and longevity in the game to come to their senses. Or did their clubs make up their minds for them, Man. U's statement came from the club, nothing from Ferguson, about time this bloke had a reality check he did nothing to calm the waters after the game, equally as guilty as that dull cunt Dalglish if you ask me.

It's time managers and clubs stopped blindly condoning or ignoring the poor behaviour and life standards of their employees. Issuing statements on club web sites is piss poor, the club owners should have all the parties involved, from both clubs, in the same room issuing apologies and shaking hands. Nothing less would do for me, make these self important cunts eat humble pie for once.

The ref was no better, at least three times I saw him diving between players and for the want of a better description 'manhandling them'. No fucking need, no one had a fucking knife, and when was the last time you saw a footballer throwing a punch outside of the City Square.

Lighten up, embrace the World that we have to live in, set an example.
sheeps

Kenny Dulllglish, just made missen smile.
Forest

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Kevin Khatchadourian

Quite agree Sheeps.

It goes without saying that the behaviour and actions of Saurez are almost beyond contempt.

Dalglish and Ferguson had an opportunity to be ambassadors for the game. Both chose not to take the adult and dignified option and chose instead to react with ill considered rhetoric. Fergusson, with his typical spiteful bile, just poured petrol on the fire.....Not for the first time.

How can Ferguson bleat on about the reputation of great clubs being ruined by the behaviour of one player? How can he demand that Suarez never play for Liverpool again because he brought "the great club" into disrepute, when he himself continues to support and select the drug cheat that is Ferdinand? Did Ferdinand not bring the whole game into disrepute in the same way that road cycling has lost so much credibility through such cheats? Did he not bring Man U into disrepute? By Ferguson's reckoning, shouldn't he have been up the road?

I am sick and tired of the behaviour of footballers, agents, managers. They are an embarrassment and a disgrace to sport in general. I couldn't give a toss, and would actually welcome, if the game shut down for a year or two to give it some time to have a long hard look at itself and how it relates (or doesn't) to the real world.

I wish the press would stop reporting tweets from such intellects as Ferdinand, Barton etc etc. If I wanted to know what a group of empty headed, under skilled, over paid fuckwitts are thinking I would "follow" them. I don't and I don't give a fuck, so don't tell me through other media!
Kevin Khatchadourian

Forest wrote:
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Seal

Evra is an appalling person. He didn't need to react to Suarez (who did nothing, he can shake hands or not as he chooses) in the way he did, whilst knowing he's being filmed from 3 or 4 angles  . His (and Ferdinand's) actions at the end were appalling too.

Why they didn't just forego the handshake ritual is beyond me. We never used to have one did we, now it's just a way to stir up more controversy and get idiots arguing with each other in pubs. I guess it's another well-meaning FA plan ("Respect" ) that's backfired.

Let's not forget, there is no proof anywhere - plenty of suggestion, yes but no proof - in that 100+ page report that Suarez said anything racist. Only Evra's word.

No-one's coming out of this well.
sheeps

Reading the BBC web site it seems Liverpools owners Fenway instigated the apologies. Unacceptable behaviour they reckon.

Really?
Late Doors

'kin dead right, a wonderful wonderful perfect game ruined by everything that is wrong in the world today, well not EVERYTHING that is wrong in the world but all that shit that  IS ruining football is also ruining the world if you get my drift? no? good grief is it tea time, laters
fartcatcher

The judge in the Redknapp case understated the problem when he said 'football has lost it's way'.

Ferguson and Evra are annoying twats, but they are not racists. Suarez clearly is. The evidence was there right from the start. If he'd called Evra a negrito once then he might have got away with it. Terry seems to have got away with calling Ferdinand, A a 'f*cking black b*stard' anyway.

Negrito means either little black guy or little nigger depending on who you believe.

Suarez called Evra a negrito ten times. If you called someone a nigger ten times in a pub you'd get battered. Hopefully by your own mates.

Dalglish, and the rest of the Liverpool team, by refusing to condemn him, have made matters a lot worse than they need have been.

I hate the Prem now. It's not about football any more it's about winning. Winning at any cost.

I will be quite happy if we stay in the Championship. The football may be a bit shite, but the game is a lot more honest.
Grind

I'm not entirely sure it is though.
Grind

Grind

He should've shaken his hand though.......and then spent the next ninety minutes nutmegging Evra at every opportunity.
Seal

fartcatcher wrote:

Ferguson and Evra are annoying twats, but they are not racists. Suarez clearly is. The evidence was there right from the start. If he'd called Evra a negrito once then he might have got away with it. Terry seems to have got away with calling Ferdinand, A a 'f*cking black b*stard' anyway.

Negrito means either little black guy or little nigger depending on who you believe.

Suarez called Evra a negrito ten times. If you called someone a nigger ten times in a pub you'd get battered. Hopefully by your own mates.


Yes Suarez may have said those things, which is of course inexcusable (unless you allow for the cultural differences i.e is "negrito" an insult where Suarez comes from? He admitted it freely which strikes me as the action of a man who thinks it is not a bad word. But that is a whole discussion in itself).

Did Evra not start it all off though by referring to Suarez's sister in the basest possible terms? Again, I don't know because none of us do, only the two of them actually know what was said.
Dock

Look back ten or twenty years and there was nowhere near as much talk of clubs going "into administration" or problems paying "wage bills". The latter wasn't even a common phrase twenty years ago. Football is shot to shit. And as for all the talk from fans about "passion", "faith", and "belief" if you were that passionate about it you would have hoofed people like Bates out of football clubs ages ago by sustained match boycotts at your respective clubs. I saw the rot start to set in ages ago. Firstly with the launch of The Premiership and then when it went all seating I jumped ship because they had finally managed to get us all to sit in nice little rows and be reprimanded by stewards for shouting too loudly etc. That was when my season ticket went west and as the years have gone by I'm glad I gave it up because football has become more laughable every season since.

Me and Papa Dock were talking recently about my son making his first appearance in the world in June and I told him that unlike he did with me, I wouldn't be encouraging my boy to follow Leeds United* or any other football team. At first he was a bit shocked, but then I explained that I wasn't going to teach my lad to settle for paying his money into a club in which his time and financial support of the team didn't get spent on the bettering of the team or the club in general. And also I wouldn't have him giving his support to a team in which the players weren't arsed one Iota about if they played well and won games. And also that that team was in a national league that was without checks and balances that punished reckless ownership of football clubs. My Dad, who is a huge football and LU fan said he couldn't see any problem with any of the points I had raised.

*Of course once he gets to school and his mates get him interested then itís out of my hands and I will end up forking out for tickets and having to accompany him to matches but I'll tell you what, it'll be under duress.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

arent some of these football clubs in trouble (financially, morally and disciplinarararararily) just a reflection of a malaise in British society as a whole?

You see the great discrepancy between pay of the elite and those doing other roles at those clubs (eg. Accoutants, tealadies, physios, admin and sales staff) and other clubs lower down the ladder - just like in wider british society

then there was the illusion of free money being borrowed and borrowed to be paid on the never-never like successive governments and previously robust companies had done (Rover, HMV, Thomas Cook, Woolworths, RBS, etc etc etc)

then there is the vast sliding scale of justice - like your John Terry's, Marlon Kings, Lee Hughes and countless others - some get away with it, others dont - a very good lawyer or very good PR can help you escape 'justice' just like in the outside world - and the game will still take you back almost no matter what you've done so long as you are effective on the pitch

whole thing makes me nauseous these days and as for Liverpool - I thought they were much much better than that

whatever happened to the corinthian spirit?
Dock

Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
arent some of these football clubs in trouble (financially, morally and disciplinarararararily) just a reflection of a malaise in British society as a whole?

You see the great discrepancy between pay of the elite and those doing other roles at those clubs (eg. Accoutants, tealadies, physios, admin and sales staff) and other clubs lower down the ladder - just like in wider british society

then there was the illusion of free money being borrowed and borrowed to be paid on the never-never like successive governments and previously robust companies had done (Rover, HMV, Thomas Cook, Woolworths, RBS, etc etc etc)

then there is the vast sliding scale of justice - like your John Terry's, Marlon Kings, Lee Hughes and countless others - some get away with it, others dont - a very good lawyer or very good PR can help you escape 'justice' just like in the outside world - and the game will still take you back almost no matter what you've done so long as you are effective on the pitch

whole thing makes me nauseous these days and as for Liverpool - I thought they were much much better than that

whatever happened to the corinthian spirit?


Good post. Re: Corinthian spirit. You drank it all on boxing day.  
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Dock wrote:
Look back ten or twenty years and there was nowhere near as much talk of clubs going "into administration" or problems paying "wage bills". The latter wasn't even a common phrase twenty years ago. Football is shot to shit. And as for all the talk from fans about "passion", "faith", and "belief" if you were that passionate about it you would have hoofed people like Bates out of football clubs ages ago by sustained match boycotts at your respective clubs. I saw the rot start to set in ages ago. Firstly with the launch of The Premiership and then when it went all seating I jumped ship because they had finally managed to get us all to sit in nice little rows and be reprimanded by stewards for shouting too loudly etc. That was when my season ticket went west and as the years have gone by I'm glad I gave it up because football has become more laughable every season since.

Me and Papa Dock were talking recently about my son making his first appearance in the world in June and I told him that unlike he did with me, I wouldn't be encouraging my boy to follow Leeds United* or any other football team. At first he was a bit shocked, but then I explained that I wasn't going to teach my lad to settle for paying his money into a club in which his time and financial support of the team didn't get spent on the bettering of the team or the club in general. And also I wouldn't have him giving his support to a team in which the players weren't arsed one Iota about if they played well and won games. And also that that team was in a national league that was without checks and balances that punished reckless ownership of football clubs. My Dad, who is a huge football and LU fan said he couldn't see any problem with any of the points I had raised.

*Of course once he gets to school and his mates get him interested then itís out of my hands and I will end up forking out for tickets and having to accompany him to matches but I'll tell you what, it'll be under duress.


better post! I'm orf all spirits these days - beer only - much healthier and good for the teeth!
Seal

So you're sick of football then Dock? You really should have mentioned this before, I had no idea  
Dock

Seal wrote:
So you're sick of football then Dock? You really should have mentioned this before, I had no idea †


Wise Guy!
grunt

It was just a little nibble wasn't it. Not as bad as a lot of tackles. Just give him a few games ban and make him wear a muzzle for a while.
Forest

Dock wrote:
Seal wrote:
So you're sick of football then Dock? You really should have mentioned this before, I had no idea †


Wise Guy!


I miss Seal. Where did he go?
sheeps

Forest wrote:
Dock wrote:
Seal wrote:
So you're sick of football then Dock? You really should have mentioned this before, I had no idea †


Wise Guy!


I miss Seal. Where did he go?


He got pissed off at WFT and Dock and their antics.

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