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Late Doors

When is a pub not a pub?

when its a bar of course but what is the difference? i know some are clearly bars but not sure why it is?. You got any favourite bars in your towns? what do you think is the difference. I like the independent aspect of some bars and the modern decor but some seem so soulless.

We've got a few, nowhere near what Leeds have but The Zephyr bar and Vox bar are both cracking places. The Zeph is more pubbish but i don't know why.
fartcatcher

I think the difference between a pub and a bar is the noise level.

In pubs you can hear yourself speak, in bars you have to scream in someone's ear from a foot away to make yourself heard.

Generally due to some sort of landfill dance music they have turned up to 11.
Kevin Khatchadourian

Bars don't serve ale, but an unheard of Bavarian lager from a chrome tap 4 feet tall?
Late Doors

I have calculated that bars are 12.5% dearer than pubs and dont sell snacks out of bags.
Grind

Or, presumably, peanuts on wall cards with provocatively dressed damsels hidden underneath.

* Mmmmm, salty. *
Plastic Man

There tends to be a higher proportion of females in bars compared to pubs.

Ladies in bars tend to wear less clothes, more make-up and shoes with higher heels than ladies in pubs.

A higher proportion of ladies who go to pubs are less likely to regularly shave their legs and armpits than those who go to bars.
Kevin Khatchadourian

What about gay bars?  Do they shave their legs and stuff? What about gays in pubs? Do they not shave their legs?
Grind

This is one of those "Ask Bearing" kind of answers.
Late Doors

Pubs have Juke boxes sometimes, Bars have a lap top with i tunes or one of the barstaffs i pod docked to something
Kingmaker of Lilliput

I drink in pubs, I walk out of bars (or rather never walk in)....
Heyho

Kingmaker of Lilliput wrote:
I drink in pubs, I walk out of bars (or rather never walk in)....


The Vic is one pub I have hated with a vengeance - well ever since it got a make over many a year ago. Before then it was frequented by hells Angels and the likes and you stuck to the carpet.

then the 'chairman of the Leeds Licence victualers (spelling?) took it over -Asquith I think they called him and it stopped being a pub.

Last time i was in there was about 3 years ago. I'm stood at the bar and was asked what I wanted. This owman next to me had been waiting longer than me so i said 'she is before me'. The bar staff said 'oh sorry i can't serve there I'm only allowed to serve up to where you are'. What's that all about.
Kingmaker of Lilliput

Heyho wrote:
Kingmaker of Lilliput wrote:
I drink in pubs, I walk out of bars (or rather never walk in)....


The Vic is one pub I have hated with a vengeance - well ever since it got a make over many a year ago. Before then it was frequented by hells Angels and the likes and you stuck to the carpet.

then the 'chairman of the Leeds Licence victualers (spelling?) took it over -Asquith I think they called him and it stopped being a pub.

Last time i was in there was about 3 years ago. I'm stood at the bar and was asked what I wanted. This owman next to me had been waiting longer than me so i said 'she is before me'. The bar staff said 'oh sorry i can't serve there I'm only allowed to serve up to where you are'. What's that all about.


Can't say, my avatar is based on memory not requent visits...
sheeps

Heyho wrote:
Kingmaker of Lilliput wrote:
I drink in pubs, I walk out of bars (or rather never walk in)....


The Vic is one pub I have hated with a vengeance - well ever since it got a make over many a year ago. Before then it was frequented by hells Angels and the likes and you stuck to the carpet.

then the 'chairman of the Leeds Licence victualers (spelling?) took it over -Asquith I think they called him and it stopped being a pub.

Last time i was in there was about 3 years ago. I'm stood at the bar and was asked what I wanted. This owman next to me had been waiting longer than me so i said 'she is before me'. The bar staff said 'oh sorry i can't serve there I'm only allowed to serve up to where you are'. What's that all about.


Were you stood in the doorway?
Late Doors

Know what you mean about the Vic, classic towny pubs have few choices these days, if they don't get taken over by companies like Nicholsons who at least maintain some kind of heritage principles they die on their arse
Late Doors

A few new bars appeared since this.

Outlaws yacht club.

Thought I'd try it one Saturday afternoon. Apparently its owned by Glam Hooligan off OMJ whom i'd always liked until the fecker followed me on twitter after i followed him only to unfollow me the day after. Oh hum still wish him  well in his venture but i think the place is aimed at a different demographic. It was a few week ago but i remember Sparse NY loft style walls with brick and utility pipes showing. Some prints of Jesus Andy Warhol style looked good and the background music  was atmospheric and well put together. No cask ale but some keg ahem...craft beer on offer that i had. Pricey but decent.

Lass behind the bar was pleasant both on the eye and ear. There weren't a lot of other people in, just nice young mid class, some with kids and the whole place had the feel of a summer fête. Not for me but maybe try it on an evening.
Late Doors

Bundobust

Across from Spencer's down Mill hill. Another sparsely deco'd canteen style bar. This one serving Indian snacks or street food as the current vogue terms it. Went in post match a few week back. Food looked good, plenty of people tucking in and supping from a plentiful supply of ale. Liked it, had a cool unfussed air about it will be paying another call shortly.
Late Doors

Bar Maroc. Huddersfield.

Long ago in days of yore the only pub in Huddersfield that played great music was the Albion on the edge of town on the ring road across from the police station. Frequented by the disaffected tribes of rockers hippies and drop outs it was one of the very few places to play punk when it broke. Great place. Upstairs was the Long Island Bar, pot smoking, shit talking crashing out bar of the 80s.

The Albion is still a music place for the kids and upstairs is now Bar Maroc. All run by the same young lad. it's Bar Maroc we've started visiting  as downstairs is just a bit too young, a bit weird just being there.

Easy to see why they call it so, the place is sumptuously furnished in Moroccan artefacts and seating areas. Not cheesy either, the lighting and shade is brilliantly authentic and the whole place has a curios harem come pub atmosphere. The music is brilliantly eclectic and classy with no particular theme. A couple of bog standard ales on with eastern European lagers and interesting bottles. Gets a good mix of discerning customers who would rather miss out on the horrific Church st-King st scene as well. Big attraction for some are the ace vegetarian authentic crispy pizzas. You get free olives as well with your pint.

There is a roof top area as well with shelter but i suspect we won't be frequenting that again till at least next April. Good addition to the town and again something that would have been driven away with burning pitch forks not too long ago.
Plastic Man

Late Doors wrote:
Bar Maroc. Huddersfield.


Do they let one bring one's dogs in?
Grind

Plastic Man wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
Bar Maroc. Huddersfield.


Do they let one bring one's dogs in?


No, but you'll probably take one home.....
Heyho

I thought they were all public bars
Late Doors

Grave news from the Ridings i bring my friends. The Zephyr has closed.

Probably, nay unequivocally and ineluctably the best bar in town and has been for twelve year now has poured its last Erdinger and spun its last tune. No more evening rendezvous. No more sun bathed sessions on the pavement and no more hours in the window with a music mag watching the world go by outside.

It's nothing short of a major disaster. It's been spinning off course for a few months now as the manager is more interested in his other place on Lord St. Its ok but not a patch on this place. Shite sub management led to most of the ace staff who made the place what it was feck off to other pastures and bang, end of an era. I am quite distressed about this. Inconsolable I fear.
fartcatcher

I fear that more and more pubs are targeting a clientele of young people who drink Blue Wkds or soft drinks and enjoy having to scream at the top of their voices to be heard over the ridiculously loud (and generally crap) piped music, rather than traditional drinkers who are happy to sit in a corner with a newspaper, a pint and a packet of crisps and mutter to themselves.
Frazier Cranium

Not so sure about that FC, isn't the real ale business really popular nowadays, more than ever before?
fartcatcher

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Not so sure about that FC, isn't the real ale business really popular nowadays, more than ever before?


It's certainly happening in trendy Leamington. If you've never been there, think of Harrogate and you're not far out. I blame the bloody students. Most of Warwick Uni (which is actually in Cov) seems to live there.
There's two pubs I use regularly. One remains pleasantly unspoilt, the other is like club 18-30 most nights, Sambuca drinking competitions. New landlord with a footballer's beard, Creedence Clearwater Revival and Poco replaced with what i believe they call 'banging choons'.

Harumphs loudly.

;>)
Frazier Cranium

Actually yes I've wined (beered) in Leamington Spa.  Yes, Spa not Spar

Ossett Brewery seem to do a really good job of refurbing and updating pubs up here without trashing the soul out of the pleasant boozerscape of the place.
fartcatcher

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Actually yes I've wined (beered) in Leamington Spa.  Yes, Spa not Spar

Ossett Brewery seem to do a really good job of refurbing and updating pubs up here without trashing the soul out of the pleasant boozerscape of the place.


If you're ever in town again here are my recommendations

New Inn - for good beer and peace and quiet

Clarendon - for music

Town House - friendly landlord

Somerville Arms - for spit and sawdust

Hope Tavern - for a fight ;>)
Late Doors

Do people actually still fight in pubs?
Frazier Cranium

Meet me in the Peacock tomorrow lunch you twat and you'll find out
Grind

The original "Meet and Beat?"
Late Doors

ooooh scary scary.  "you're hard" as the song used to go

The Zephyr is going to be a.... wait for it....in Huddersfield.........
a Proseco, champagne and fucking cocktail bar. i hope it crashes burns and dies a million debt ridden poverty inducing plague ridden deaths.
fartcatcher

Late Doors wrote:
ooooh scary scary.  "you're hard" as the song used to go

The Zephyr is going to be a.... wait for it....in Huddersfield.........
a Proseco, champagne and fucking cocktail bar. i hope it crashes burns and dies a million debt ridden poverty inducing plague ridden deaths.


That's a lot worse than a Wetherspoons!

I'll stop moaning.

For a while.

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