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Heyho

Time to move house

Docks post about moving house started me thinking.

I too am looking to move house - the councils decision to build a chav estate at the bottom of my garden on GREEN BELT land (currently nice fields) has turned my home into a house. And when I tackled one of the councillors when I bumped into him he turned round to me and said, in his SCOTTISH voice 'well you are like me, you aren't getting any younger are you, have you thought about buying a bungalow'. Anyway enough of that, its very upsetting!

Anyway I have had my eyes opened with house prices. I could sell up, move to the outskirts of Castleford, get a BIGGER house and practically go mortgage free with the money I make. There is one house in particular in Cutsyke (near Xscape for those of you who don't know the area) that is on the market for 250k. The exact same house less than 5 miles down the road in Rothwell is on the market for 380k. Crazy. Ok so one has the M62 as its out look and the other the golf course at De Vere Oulton Hall (spot the celebrity time).

But there is some absolute dross on the market as well. How some people can put their house up for sale the state it is in is beyond me.

I shall continue the search. Pre requisits for me are a new build with a very large garden (allotment at the bottom of the garden). Chances of finding one in my price range - zero. Some of these 1950's council estate semis near us have huge gardens. You are looking 150+ foot long. Built at the times the government was looking for more self sufficiency. Now the gardens are full of old rusty cars! A sign of the times.
Frazier Cranium

Said it before H, get your hands on some endangered slug or whatever, natterjack toads and the like, and make the Green Belt their home.
Dock

We had been planning to be moved and settled at least a year before my son started school. And we have done it. The beautiful home we have just moved into would have cost us approx 80-90k more in Leeds. My only advice H would be to sit down with your missus and write down EXACTLY what you both need from a move, then get going with it asap. People put off having to do something like moving because in the final analysis it's a pain in the fucking neck. "Maybe next year", "Lets see how things go" are popular refrains from people thinking of moving but its all about being proactive. Get your skates on kid! As Mick Jones (member of the popular beat combo The Clash) once sang in their song 'Clampdown': "Stop wasting your time, there's nothing coming!"

Good luck with it!
Grind

The place opposite us is currently up for sale (back in the day, it used to be the dairy to our house, or something like that):-

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails...d-Bedford-NH-03110/74276258_zpid/

Not sure I'd recommend it though - the neighbours are twats.
Heyho

Grind wrote:
The place opposite us is currently up for sale (back in the day, it used to be the dairy to our house, or something like that):-

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails...d-Bedford-NH-03110/74276258_zpid/

Not sure I'd recommend it though - the neighbours are twats.


A bit far for me to commute to work each day
Grind

Heyho wrote:
Grind wrote:
The place opposite us is currently up for sale (back in the day, it used to be the dairy to our house, or something like that):-

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails...d-Bedford-NH-03110/74276258_zpid/

Not sure I'd recommend it though - the neighbours are twats.


A bit far for me to commute to work each day


Good point. The bears can be mardy feckers with the bird feeders too.
Heyho

So is that house and grounds typical of what you would get in your area for what amounts to around 220k?
Grind

Heyho wrote:
So is that house and grounds typical of what you would get in your area for what amounts to around 220k?


I think most lot sizes in this town are about two acres - possibly because you have to have your own well and septic systems as much as anything else.

The house in the listing is actually a bit "strange" in terms of layout (the second level was added in the past twenty years) and most of the residents are not the sort to do their own DIY, so it is probably rightly less than an otherwise equivalent property. The staging people have done their best to make it look pleasant enough, but I suspect quite a bit of effort would need to be put into the property to make it more functional.

I'd guess $325k is the sort of price a three bedroomed house would go for in these here parts?

I had been considering it as a possible "project" to fix up to let, but the thought of needy and/or bolshie tenants living opposite 24/7 put me off.

When I was back briefly a week or so back, I was amazed at how little you get for your money for housing in the UK - to the extent that we might not be able to easily move back, even if we wanted to.

Good luck finding your new home.
Cutsyke

How well do you know Castleford Hey Ho? Don't rush into anything.
Heyho

Cutsyke wrote:
How well do you know Castleford Hey Ho? Don't rush into anything.


True lol. Although they do have a Wakefield postcode.

I quite like places like Ackton and Purston Jaglin (isn't that a great name) and (if I can afford it) the likes of Monk Fryston and neighbouring villages.
Cutsyke

I think that Zillow site is a bit out of whack. Ours is listed at $380,000. I'd bite your fucking hand off for that
I'm not knocking Cas, i loved it over there, met some great people and I could have settled there easy but just looking at how many pubs have closed makes me wonder what it's like these days.
Grind

Price dropped $10k.

Motivated seller?
fartcatcher

Me and Mrs FC are thinking of 'downsizing' now that both the kids have moved out and are (reasonably) financially independent.

Big debate as to where! She wants to move to a completely different part of the country, I'd rather stay local - maybe Leamington as Coventry and Rugby are shitholes.  However, we'd have to pay the same price for a house half the size in Leamington as it has 'Royal' in front of it and 'Spa' after it.

Think of a Midlands Harrogate and you wont be far wrong.

Leeds is on her list!!!! even though she's a Southerner.
Late Doors

For all you/us looking for a new house, one of my favouritre songs of the year.

Heyho

Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas
Late Doors

Same here but even less distance, less than a mile. Birkby can hardly give them away, Lindley, other side of Halifax Road top side of stupid.

Anyway, on to important suff. WHAT ABOUT THE SONG
fartcatcher

song's feckin' ace LD
sheeps

Heyho wrote:
Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas




Had reason to visit Castleford City Centre on Saturday.

I just needs a good bulldozing, fucking awful, shit shops and full of odd badly dressed people.

I shall take some images if I'm unfortunate enough to have to return.
Dock

sheeps wrote:
Heyho wrote:
Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas




Had reason to visit Castleford City Centre on Saturday.

I just needs a good bulldozing, fucking awful, shit shops and full of odd badly dressed people.

I shall take some images if I'm unfortunate enough to have to return.


You were slumming it a bit Sheeps. Was the Knottingley Fortnum & Mason on half day closing?
Heyho

LDF Publication Draft Consultation,
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Leonardo Building,
2 Rossington Street,
Leeds
LS2 8HD


6th October 2015

RE: LSAP & AVLAAP - FORMAL OBJECTIONS MADE DURING PUBLIC CONSULTATION

Dear Sir / Madam,

I wish to make you aware of a number of strong objections that I have with regard to the proposed development of the following greenbelt and green field site:

HG2-1754 (1259B) Bullough Lane Haigh Farm, Rothwell Haigh, LS26 0JY

As a local resident living adjacent to the site of the proposed development, I am of the view that the proposed development on greenbelt protected land will have a serious negative impact on our standard of living and should be excluded from the plan in favour of an overall review looking at better utilisation of brown field sites. My specific objections are as follows:

1. Inconsistent with National Planning Policy Framework:

I. INADEQUATE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTSRAINT: NPPF now states that the target level of housing development within the plans should be capped in line with the capacity of brown field sites to accommodate it, to protect and enhance greenbelt. The current plans significantly exceed this capacity; resulting in the permanent destruction of greenbelt.

II. NON-EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE: NPPF states that greenbelt is to be protected and requires exceptional circumstances to be built on. There is nothing exceptional about the council's plans to build on unspoilt land to meet their current housing target. The council's adoption of the self imposed Core Housing Strategy cannot be considered to be an exceptional set of circumstances, but is merely part of their scheduled housing building policy plan.

III. PRIORITISATION OF GREENEBLT OVER BROWN FIELD: NPPF states that brown field sites are to be prioritised over the development of green field and greenbelt, but these plans offer up greenbelt in advance. The range of larger sites that are scheduled for phase one; in advance of many brown field which are allocated for housing. The greenbelt allocated for housing has also been selected in favour of all of the other available brown field land from across the region, which is yet to be included in the site allocation plan.

IV. LOSS OF COMMUNITY IDENTITY: NPPF states that merging of communities is to be prevented, yet development of these greenbelt sites will lose the individual identities currently held between the areas in which they are located.

V. LACK OF INFRASTRUCTRE: NPPF states that infrastructure must come first, yet the outline ideas to provide infrastructure are neither in place or time-lined in advance of the proposed developments. There are currently no plans whatsoever to develop new healthcare with these massive scale extensions of population. At best there is only marginal attempt to set aside land for education, but there is no schedule of timed completion and no consideration for who would build a school on this land. In all probability, this would not be progressed and would then be turned into yet more housing for any already over stretched population.

2. Inconsistent with Leeds Development Plan Policies:

I. LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING: The need for large scale affordable housing and single owner properties will not be fulfilled by developing on sites on greenbelt land in semi-rural areas, but on the renewal of brown field land in areas in need of urban regeneration and investment. For example the site listed above is in an area which command property values upwards of 300,000 (ie: Holmsley Grange); which is in no way part of a plan which prioritises the progression of affordable housing. The small percentage set aside for affordable housing within these premium area developments only scratches the surface of the problem and in no way alleviates the real issue in the way that true urban regeneration should.

II. DENIAL OF HOUSING TARGET RE-ASSEMENT NEED: The current housing target which drives the need to develop on the greenbelt is flawed and needs to be changed. It is based on outdated, over inflated housing targets which require that over 66,000 new properties are still needed. This needs to be brought in line to the latest 2014 figures (from the Office of National Statistics), which show a need of only 46,000 new homes.  

III. DELAYING OF HOUSING TARGET RE-ASSEMENT NEED: In order to prevent the unnecessary permanent destruction of greenbelt, the current plan to re-assess the housing target needs to be put in place before the site allocation plans are progressed, and not after them as currently planned.

3. Lack of Conservation of the Natural Environment:

I. DESTRUCTION OF HABITATS: The above site, which is adjacent to the recently created Rothwell Country Park (funded by EEC money) is host to newts, different species of bats, owls, hawks, wild deer, foxes and a huge array of wildlife that will be impacted as a result of the proposed development. While there may be token provision allocated for selected species, the majority are not even noted or recognised in the inadequate environmental impact assessments which have been conducted to date.

4. Negative Effect on the Landscape:

I. DESTRUCTION OF NATURAL VIEWS: As mentioned above the proposed site is adjacent to Rothwell Country Park, a recent but now integral part of the landscape of Woodlesford and the surrounding area. This Park was created from the waste heaps of the now long gone coal mine. Although it is mentioned that a biodiversity buffer needs building into the plans for houses that will be adjacent to the Park no further information has been submitted. It is sad to think that the effort that has gone into creating the Park over the past 20 years will be lost by building on the green belt farming fields directly adjacent to it.

Although I fully appreciate the need for additional, and affordable, housing within the area especially as I have two children of my own who will shortly be wanting to get on the property ladder I sincerely hope that you are able to act on my behalf and reject the progression of these greenbelt sites within the development proposals in favour of producing alternative plans that will utilise brown field much better.

Please keep me informed of the public examinations, submission of the plans and potential outcome of the review.

Yours faithfully,
Frazier Cranium

Let's hope the twonks reply.  Keep us informed, comrade!
sheeps

Dock wrote:
sheeps wrote:
Heyho wrote:
Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas




Had reason to visit Castleford City Centre on Saturday.

I just needs a good bulldozing, fucking awful, shit shops and full of odd badly dressed people.

I shall take some images if I'm unfortunate enough to have to return.


You were slumming it a bit Sheeps. Was the Knottingley Fortnum & Mason on half day closing?



Specsavers
bearing

sheeps wrote:
Dock wrote:
sheeps wrote:
Heyho wrote:
Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas




Had reason to visit Castleford City Centre on Saturday.

I just needs a good bulldozing, fucking awful, shit shops and full of odd badly dressed people.

I shall take some images if I'm unfortunate enough to have to return.


You were slumming it a bit Sheeps. Was the Knottingley Fortnum & Mason on half day closing?



Specsavers


Pardon?
sheeps

bearing wrote:
sheeps wrote:
Dock wrote:
sheeps wrote:
Heyho wrote:
Postcode lottery

Cutsyke - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 250k
Rothwell - 4 bed 'Haddenham' house - 380k

Distance between the two of them - around 4 to 5 miles

Of course Cutsyke = Cas




Had reason to visit Castleford City Centre on Saturday.

I just needs a good bulldozing, fucking awful, shit shops and full of odd badly dressed people.

I shall take some images if I'm unfortunate enough to have to return.


You were slumming it a bit Sheeps. Was the Knottingley Fortnum & Mason on half day closing?



Specsavers


Pardon?


Who said that?
Heyho

Learnt last year that the council had given us a reprive regards building on the greenbelt (or to use their terminology Greenfield)land at the bottom of our garden. So we decided to invest in a extension thingy.

Got an email last week from the Council informing be that the they have decided to increase the plans for 154 dwellings to 222 (on the same patch of land). I am currently on page 6 of a very long legal objections document that is going to be sent to the cunts. I feel like Petrocelli me.
Frazier Cranium

Bastards.
Grind

Green is good.
Frazier Cranium

Better than Silvestri too
Grind

I'm not sure "Green is mostly adequate" is quite what Heyho needs for his protection racket.

Silvestri might have some contacts though.....
Heyho

An interesting read from the Telegraph on the subject...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/e...tive-map-Englands-green-belt.html

Most striking thing? Leeds allocation of 19,400 green belt land is not far off the allocation of the rest of the country put together!!!
sheeps

There was a theory going around a while ago that t'Leeds was going to get more than the average share of migrants n' stuff.

Coincidence?
fartcatcher

Green belt means bugger all now. Any developer has the right to appeal to the Government if a council turns them down. They inevitably win. Often the council can't afford the legal costs to fight them.

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