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The Price of Civilized Justice

Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik suing the Norwegian government for violating his human rights by keeping him in solitary confinement. Presumably as he'd prefer being in a cell with other prisoners who will be nicer to him
Dock

Re: The Price of Civilized Justice

Late Doors wrote:
Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik suing the Norwegian government for violating his human rights by keeping him in solitary confinement. Presumably as he'd prefer being in a cell with other prisoners who will be nicer to him


Filling your retirement time up positively then? Concerning your self with grim stuff like Norwegian headcases? Have a Werthers, twitch yer curtains, and shut the fuck up Grandad!
HKPhooey

Breivik's inhumane conditions were listed in court as:

- The use of plastic cups and paper plates
- Having to eat microwaved meals, such as those made by Norwegian firm Fjordland*
- Cold coffee
- Being denied the right to meet fellow Nazi friends and marry one
- Being prevented from publishing two books, The Breivik Diaries and The Nordic State
- He had begun to love a reality TV show, Paradise Hotel: "clear evidence of serious brain damage caused by isolation"

Need to check out this reality show
Late Doors

Retired from flogging  my time and energy to an acceptable bidder, not from life and all it's wondrous  facets. Might be a simple post about a simp!e psycho but contined within it is must about every moral, political and economic principle I hold, such as they are and wondered what others thought.

Eh up HK, that is some list of grievances. He needs to get his union to look into it.
Grind

I'm sure irony isn't the word I'm looking for, but I'm guessing that he didn't spend too much quality time considering any violating he might have done with respect to the human rights of his victims either before or after his actions.

I don't agree with the death penalty and I know that some of the most internally tortured souls on this planet have given rise to some of humanity's greatest achievements in terms of, say, art but there is something morally bonkers about spending a small fortune pandering to and "looking after" this twunt when the same funds/efforts could do so much more for people in real need, be they refugees or simply poor.

I suppose the same could be said about me spending time and effort to look after my ten year old dog, so perhaps I'm being a bit of a hypocrite?

Oh well, there's plenty that's wrong with this planet.

Luckily, it isn't all bad too.
Dock

It's that fine line of governments trying to set an example by still treating him like a human being and observing his rights but at the same time punishing him as well. Personally I think they should've just ended him. I'd be quite happy to do it. I wouldnt give it any more thought than wringing a pheasants neck, but that's just liberal-little-old-me.
Grind

I have no idea what a sensible response in terms of punishment in this case should be, but I believe that there should always be some form of yin-yang consequence for anti-social behaviour.

A (fairly trivial) example to me would be something like littering. A fine is all well and good, but a far more appropriate action, at least to my mind, would be to make the offender pick up rubbish for a couple of weeks instead.

Any custodial sentence should always require some sort of daily work to offset the costs of prison.

Shouldn't it?
Grind

* Hides pet pheasant. *
Grind

Proper justice....

Late Doors

There is something more morally bonkers about a society that says killing is wrong yet has it legally and justifiably stitched into its modus operandi. How can anyone respect a law or a code of conduct when it can be so reversed for convenience?

Suppose he was killed as "punishment" to me that is giving him power. His one solitary miserable life is the equivalent of all those he took.

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