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Dock

The Jam: About the Young Idea

Saw this on Sky Arts last night. Docu from last year. Great film with interviews from all three members of the band. Some great footage and as a fan of Wellers music, I jumped head first into this nostalgia trip and loved every minute of it. Although these days I listen more to PW's solo stuff this was a reminder of just how good The Jam were. So much so that I had 'Snap' on all day in the car today. I felt bloody old though when I realised next year it will be forty years since 'In the City' was released. WTF!
smiling badger

Sounds like a good watch. Dont have Sky but seem to miss out on some good stuff on Sky arts though.
Plastic Man

Re: The Jam: About the Young Idea

Dock wrote:
Saw this on Sky Arts last night. Docu from last year.


Watched this last night as well. I thoroughly recommend it. I preferred the Jam's early stuff. I lost interest later on, especially with the transmogrification into the Style Council etc.
Late Doors

The impact the Jam had on me when i first heard them is still with me. Thats how great i think they are. Still one of the best live bands i have ever had the privellege of seeing. Will check this thing out if and when those twats at SKY ever let it go
Dock

Late Doors wrote:
The impact the Jam had on me when i first heard them is still with me. Thats how great i think they are. Still one of the best live bands i have ever had the privellege of seeing. Will check this thing out if and when those twats at SKY ever let it go


It wasn't made exclusively for Sky. It's an independent documentary. Im sure it's got a DVD release. Sky Arts showed it because it's such a great channel that broadcasts quality programmes. Don't give it all that principled knackers about Sky. You pay to watch Leeds United football club. Therefore you lack principles and good judgement. Now you're retired a Sky subscription would serve you well, yer miserable old div!
Grind

I think the last Jam album I actively listened to was Setting Sons.

I could understand the idea behind The Style Council: I just didn't care for them much.
Late Doors

I could undrstand the idea about the Style Council as well. It was fannying around with shit clothes wasnt it. Sky might broadcast great programs but their contribution in nurturing and developing art is negligible especially given their huge political assistance at every stage of their own development from shithouse rag mags to global domination.
Dock

Late Doors wrote:
I could undrstand the idea about the Style Council as well. It was fannying around with shit clothes wasnt it. Sky might broadcast great programs but their contribution in nurturing and developing art is negligible especially given their huge political assistance at every stage of their own development from shithouse rag mags to global domination.


Style Council: Fannying around? Feck Off! A band that produced singles as good as Walls Come Tumbling Down, My Ever Changing Moods, and Shout to the Top? Get back to 'The Brude' and do some chin-stroking! I worry about you sometimes. TSC made some great pop music.
Late Doors

Yeah i got worried too after Town Called Mallice. A brilliant epochal statement of the times epitomising them by a band that defined them. Then all of a sudden the bloke at the forefront, the angry articulate change agent, the guy millions took teenage revolutionary inspiration from suddenly decided to hook up with another bunch of clothes horses to sing about his ever changing moods and long hot summers whilst riding drop handle bar cycles around the countryside. Fuck me, we couldn't get in pubs dressed like that at one time then suddenly every trendy twat in town was in Lycra shorts and lotto tops.

Now don't  get me wrong, I too worship at the altar of subsequent Wellerdom but the leap from  Red wedge to Brother Sledge was tantamount to betrayal. Walls come tumbling down was ok but a fucking massive fluke considering what was to come a few years later. I'm not convinced it wasn't a blatant rip off of another song either, ill check it out but I remember thinking the same at the time . Don't even get me started on that other lad Mickey chancer in the band either. I think Weller files him In the "what was I thinking" file now along with that handbag he was snapped wearing.
Dock

Late Doors wrote:
Yeah i got worried too after Town Called Mallice. A brilliant epochal statement of the times epitomising them by a band that defined them. Then all of a sudden the bloke at the forefront, the angry articulate change agent, the guy millions took teenage revolutionary inspiration from suddenly decided to hook up with another bunch of clothes horses to sing about his ever changing moods and long hot summers whilst riding drop handle bar cycles around the countryside. Fuck me, we couldn't get in pubs dressed like that at one time then suddenly every trendy twat in town was in Lycra shorts and lotto tops.

Now don't  get me wrong, I too worship at the altar of subsequent Wellerdom but the leap from  Red wedge to Brother Sledge was tantamount to betrayal. Walls come tumbling down was ok but a fucking massive fluke considering what was to come a few years later. I'm not convinced it wasn't a blatant rip off of another song either, ill check it out but I remember thinking the same at the time . Don't even get me started on that other lad Mickey chancer in the band either. I think Weller files him In the "what was I thinking" file now along with that handbag he was snapped wearing.


According to sleeve notes and acknowledgements on some of PW's later successful albums it seems he files Mick Talbot in the 'session musician, friend, and collaborator' file LD. As for the 'tantamount to betrayal' line. Forge your own destiny. I'm guessing PW inspired people hugely but he can't hold people's hands forever. He chose to take a different route. So what? It's his life. He dabbled with a different style of music, often with great results. He progressed as an adult, it's what some of us do. The latter can't be said for many of the bloated Fred Perry wearing Peter Pan bellends who you occasionally still see at his gigs who still listen to ONLY the same music as they did in their teens and have never sought out new bands or music, and want The Jam to reform. Dead from the neck up (not you mate, them). Keep changing! That's the moral of this post. Don't just sit in Huddersfield picking your nose and oiling your electric gates waiting for a messiah. To quote a lyric by the man himself: "Be the first one on your block, to know the time and own a clock"...................And subscribe to Sky as well!!!
smiling badger

The Style Council did make one or two good songs but in general were pretty rubbish. Im sure Mr Weller would even hold his hands up to that.
fartcatcher

Weller was the angry young man of punk. The trouble is you can't keep that up forever or you'll get high blood pressure. He mellowed, started wearing fashionable knitwear and singing about trees. It happens to everyone to some extent.
Grind

A Town Called Meh.
Butts

Really enjoyed this film. Saw them a few times and it was an energy charge like no other. Their peak for me was '79 and that run of singles - Strange Town, When You're Young, Funeral Pyre. Always remember Going Underground going in at No. 1 as I was in hospital recovering from a circumcision.

I bought fully into the Style Council and controversially would say that Our Favourite Shop surpassed all Jam LPs other than All Mod Cons, which is close to perfect.

I was left completely cold by Weller solo after the crushing disappointment of his first offering although I entirely respect his right to make a string of tuneless, bland and self indulgent records, and in so doing get extremely rich.
Grind

This could easily turn into a "Men Without Hats" thread.

* No reason. *
Dock

Butts wrote:
Really enjoyed this film. Saw them a few times and it was an energy charge like no other. Their peak for me was '79 and that run of singles - Strange Town, When You're Young, Funeral Pyre. Always remember Going Underground going in at No. 1 as I was in hospital recovering from a circumcision.

I bought fully into the Style Council and controversially would say that Our Favourite Shop surpassed all Jam LPs other than All Mod Cons, which is close to perfect.

I was left completely cold by Weller solo after the crushing disappointment of his first offering although I entirely respect his right to make a string of tuneless, bland and self indulgent records, and in so doing get extremely rich.


Ace! I'd post Jam/circumcision puns up if I could think of any. Going Underground? Wasn't that on the 'Snip' compilation.


















Beat Yer Meat Surrender.













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Nah, that's it from me.
Late Doors

A crown pulled phallus. Nah that's me out as we!l
Dock

All Knob Cons
fartcatcher

Stop! That's not Entertainment.

btw

Weller's had some terrible haircuts over the years. Up there with Liam Gallagher.

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