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Dock

Recent Dr Who Series

Got six episodes from the latest series on the planner and Mrs D away for a couple of nights on a course in Oxford so catching up. I liked the Matt Smith Dr Who incarnation but these are the first I've seen with Peter Capaldi in. Big juicy budgets thrown at it as is evident in the SFX and I like Capaldi in most things and I think he was made for the part. Good telly if you ask me.....I know you won't.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

The second Dr Who/Capaldi season is much better than his first which was far too diverted with his assistants doomed love story with the insipid teacher who became a cyberman

Its still silly and indecipherable stuff which keeps breaking its own invented laws of science faction but is much more true to its old roots this season
Frazier Cranium

Been a couple of good ones so far and a couple of bobbins-ful ones too.

It's getting more like Mr Benn than good sci-fi like.
Late Doors

Second best Dr ever and the worst scripts ever. Just ridiculous beyond acceptance. They seem to just want to push and push it getting evermore insane. A metaphor for something else maybe but im not giving them that credit. Utter shite rescued only by a couple of good stories like codge said
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Late Doors wrote:
Second best Dr ever and the worst scripts ever. Just ridiculous beyond acceptance. They seem to just want to push and push it getting evermore insane. A metaphor for something else maybe but im not giving them that credit. Utter shite rescued only by a couple of good stories like codge said


Lots of corny lines and cliches - I sometimes wonder if its been written and produced by people on amphetamines

But its still a lot better than the last series
Dock

Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
Second best Dr ever and the worst scripts ever. Just ridiculous beyond acceptance. They seem to just want to push and push it getting evermore insane. A metaphor for something else maybe but im not giving them that credit. Utter shite rescued only by a couple of good stories like codge said


Lots of corny lines and cliches - I sometimes wonder if its been written and produced by people on amphetamines

But its still a lot better than the last series


One thing I can't work out re his female sidekick, is whether he wants to be a father figure to her or wants to shag her. It's a bit vague.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Dock wrote:
Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
Second best Dr ever and the worst scripts ever. Just ridiculous beyond acceptance. They seem to just want to push and push it getting evermore insane. A metaphor for something else maybe but im not giving them that credit. Utter shite rescued only by a couple of good stories like codge said


Lots of corny lines and cliches - I sometimes wonder if its been written and produced by people on amphetamines

But its still a lot better than the last series


One thing I can't work out re his female sidekick, is whether he wants to be a father figure to her or wants to shag her. It's a bit vague.



       
fartcatcher

I think Jim Capaldi's the best doctor since 'the old days'. Plots seem a bit convoluted but that might just be my rapidly decaying DNA slowing me down a bit.
Dock

fartcatcher wrote:
I think Jim Capaldi's the best doctor since 'the old days'. Plots seem a bit convoluted but that might just be my rapidly decaying DNA slowing me down a bit.


I haven't seen the episode where The Dr travels back to the mid to late sixties and joins the band Traffic.
Frazier Cranium

Well spotted.
fartcatcher

That's what i mean by rapidly decaying DNA.

Just realised (with the help of Google) that poor old Jim died on 2005. Excellent vocalist and lyricist.

RIP Jim.
Late Doors

The dialogue is insane, manic with no empathy for the listener, yeah its typical speed freak gibber gabber. Science fiction needs space for the imagination to enter and expand otherwise it's just  someone's mind dump with no engagement with the viewer. I also think there is too much contriteness  in shoehorning in political correctness, empowering women for instance with traditional male roles of power or evil. That embarrassing cringe worthy relationship between Clara and whatshisname. Anti ageism etc. All very laudable of course but too much and at the expense of the story

Capaldi can play guitar, i know, lets lever that into the script as well. The whole thing is a classic case of more is less.
fartcatcher

You can watch the original Dr Who on Channel 70 at 8:00 pm Mon-Fri.

Currently Jon Pertwee, Jo, the Master, UNIT and The Sea Monsters.

Just worth watching for the every expense spared special effects.
Dock

fartcatcher wrote:
You can watch the original Dr Who on Channel 70 at 8:00 pm Mon-Fri.

Currently Jon Pertwee, Jo, the Master, UNIT and The Sea Monsters.

Just worth watching for the every expense spared special effects.


I know what you mean FC. I flicked over on to an episode this week on the horror channel with Jon Pertwee and The Master. It's very odd telly and car crash-like in how you can't stop watching its babaness.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Late Doors wrote:
The dialogue is insane, manic with no empathy for the listener, yeah its typical speed freak gibber gabber. Science fiction needs space for the imagination to enter and expand otherwise it's just  someone's mind dump with no engagement with the viewer. I also think there is too much contriteness  in shoehorning in political correctness, empowering women for instance with traditional male roles of power or evil. That embarrassing cringe worthy relationship between Clara and whatshisname. Anti ageism etc. All very laudable of course but too much and at the expense of the story

Capaldi can play guitar, i know, lets lever that into the script as well. The whole thing is a classic case of more is less.


   
Dock

Late Doors wrote:
The dialogue is insane, manic with no empathy for the listener, yeah its typical speed freak gibber gabber. Science fiction needs space for the imagination to enter and expand otherwise it's just  someone's mind dump with no engagement with the viewer. I also think there is too much contriteness  in shoehorning in political correctness, empowering women for instance with traditional male roles of power or evil. That embarrassing cringe worthy relationship between Clara and whatshisname. Anti ageism etc. All very laudable of course but too much and at the expense of the story

Capaldi can play guitar, i know, lets lever that into the script as well. The whole thing is a classic case of more is less.


I think you need to lighten up LD. It's Saturday teatime telly.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The dialogue is insane, manic with no empathy for the listener, yeah its typical speed freak gibber gabber. Science fiction needs space for the imagination to enter and expand otherwise it's just  someone's mind dump with no engagement with the viewer. I also think there is too much contriteness  in shoehorning in political correctness, empowering women for instance with traditional male roles of power or evil. That embarrassing cringe worthy relationship between Clara and whatshisname. Anti ageism etc. All very laudable of course but too much and at the expense of the story

Capaldi can play guitar, i know, lets lever that into the script as well. The whole thing is a classic case of more is less.


I think you need to lighten up LD. It's Saturday teatime telly.


It's another Golden Goose for the BBC which they are killing on the altar of political correctness  - just like Top Gear (the PC of not being able to thump your colleagues and get away with it!)
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

None-to-subtle 'mass immigration is brilliant' message in this latest Zygon episode
Frazier Cranium

The fact that Dr Who is a two-hearted hero whose duty it seems is to save the human race from all manner of danger, sort of tells me that there are going to be quite a few 'moral' messages given out.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Frazier Cranium wrote:
The fact that Dr Who is a two-hearted hero whose duty it seems is to save the human race from all manner of danger, sort of tells me that there are going to be quite a few 'moral' messages given out.


I agree - he's obviously a one-Nation Tory coming from a strong libertarian background
Frazier Cranium

No I think you are mixing him up with The Master there, old chap  Or the Daleks, though it's a close thing with UKIP.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
No I think you are mixing him up with The Master there, old chap  Or the Daleks, though it's a close thing with UKIP.


"EXPATRIATE!!!!!!!"

Grind

The country is running short of qualified plumbers.
Late Doors

Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The dialogue is insane, manic with no empathy for the listener, yeah its typical speed freak gibber gabber. Science fiction needs space for the imagination to enter and expand otherwise it's just  someone's mind dump with no engagement with the viewer. I also think there is too much contriteness  in shoehorning in political correctness, empowering women for instance with traditional male roles of power or evil. That embarrassing cringe worthy relationship between Clara and whatshisname. Anti ageism etc. All very laudable of course but too much and at the expense of the story

Capaldi can play guitar, i know, lets lever that into the script as well. The whole thing is a classic case of more is less.


I think you need to lighten up LD. It's Saturday teatime telly.


Lighten up? Lighten the fucketty fuck up up you say???? Only Saturday night telly is it ? It's fucking Dr Who man, LIFE.

You wanna see me when they raise their shoulders too much or let their elbows loose on Strictly...
Late Doors

Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
None-to-subtle 'mass immigration is brilliant' message in this latest Zygon episode


I know what you mean but I thought these two episodes were back to form. A bit ham fisted in its err message and analogy, more about conlict i thought than mass immigaration but Capaldis " so you get what you want, then what you gonna do when another you comes along?" speech was magnificent, if saddened by yesterdays horror

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