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Rebel Music

You just dont seem to get it too much these days do you.
Where are the youth of todays Pistols, Specials, Clash, Jam and the likes bemoaning the state of the country, Politics or the world we live in? Or am i just getting older and not listening to the right radio stations to be hearing of these type of groups?
Or have they nothing to sing about apart from themselves?
Plastic Man

They rebel in their own way.

With beards, three-quarter length trousers and fixed wheel bicycles.
Grind

Plastic Man wrote:
They rebel in their own way.

With beards, three-quarter length trousers and fixed wheel bicycles.


And the boys are worse.
fartcatcher

Sleaford Mods recapture the spirit of punk and are worth a listen.

Too much Brit Pop music dominated by indie coin-shitters like Mumford and Sons.
Late Doors

Our little corner of music is now, let's face it, mostly made by comfortably off kids and or established older people. What they gonna rebel against? Course anybody who isn't on the breadline isn't allowed to be unhappy with things lest they get accused of hypocrisy. They should just be poor and be wealth envious instead apparently. Bullshit.

There's plenty of rebel music out there especially in the big wide world just not as we think of it. There's lots of angry rap for instance but there's been a political shift in the meaning of rebel music if you ask me, i know you will. It's become, like everything else these days all about the individual rather than a collective. It's not even political, usually just some misogynist vainglorious bullshit about being cool. All the people, millions of them who should be angry and getting mobilised have abandoned the frame work of our political democracy in the stupid belief that it is irrelevant to them and they are better off on their own. Of course, that is exactly what the forces of the elite rulers want. The only thing they fear is collectivism and must be pissing themselves at all these little rebels with their bling n bitches
fartcatcher

The music biz seems to have gone back in time to the Tin Pan Alley dominated fities. Wealthy promoters find talentless anodyne photogenic teenagers and record them singing mawkish ballads that they believe will have cross-generational appeal and bring in lorry loads of cash. No need for them to spend any money on promotion as the media will do it for them.

Record companies view music as a commodity, like fridges, cars or cereals. Create a product that is similar to something already on the market and you will pinch someone else's market share. Less risk with this approach than going for something a bit leftfield that might fail spectacularly.

It's like punk never happened.
Dalek

FC - it is clear that punk happened by the tone of your post - I can't remember such views being espoused in the 70's before the emergence of punk.

But available media was very different back then.

The music business was always going to find ways of re-establishing control over the mainstream - hence the Christmas Number 1 act being selected by a process that "begins" in September.

However, it is not our loss.  It is the loss of our offsprings' (I gather that you may be of a similar age to me).

We are now at a stage in our lives where we are free to choose whatever we want to listen to.  There is no peer pressure to adhere to any particular genre. No image to maintain whilst our persona is developing.

(BTW, my teenage kids actually LIKE the groups/music I have in my collection (well, about 70% or so)). My son (16) was very curious when I put on an LP on the turntable last week.

Thanks for the previous mention of the Sleaford Mods - I have since had a look at a handful of their videos on youtube, and will seek out some more.  Their attitude strikes an old familiar chord, and I found an interview they did was refreshingly honest.
Grind

Punk both scared and fascinated me at the time.

* That was entirely the point, teenage Grind. *
fartcatcher

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(BTW, my teenage kids actually LIKE the groups/music I have in my collection (well, about 70% or so)). My son (16) was very curious when I put on an LP on the turntable last week.


When my daughter was that age, she was listening to a lot of EMO stuff (My Chemical Romance were the main offenders). I was subjected to this stuff continuously whilst transporting her round E Warks at an ungodly hour.

Luckily she grew out of it. Ten years later we have remarkably similar tastes.
Grind

fartcatcher wrote:
Quote:
(BTW, my teenage kids actually LIKE the groups/music I have in my collection (well, about 70% or so)). My son (16) was very curious when I put on an LP on the turntable last week.


When my daughter was that age, she was listening to a lot of EMO stuff (My Chemical Romance were the main offenders). I was subjected to this stuff continuously whilst transporting her round E Warks at an ungodly hour.

Luckily she grew out of it. Ten years later we have remarkably similar tastes.


Hopefully you don't fancy Harry as well.
Late Doors

Uncut has just done a feature on protest songs and there is some belters amongst them including new stuff. I got to thinking maybe the popular music audience has been fragmented into multiple sometimes exclusive genres it's hard for a song to get mass acclaim. Well , enough to give it some political gravitas.

This is on it. Ezra Furman just after the Killing if Michael Brown. He write it recorded it and broadcast it all within about ten minutes such is the modern world

Heyho

My son was 18 a few weeks back. He's off to see Drake soon and he supporrs Chelsea. He also frequents places that sell WKD and has started going out at 10pm and coming home at 5:30 making his mum have a sleepless night and me an early awakening when he makes a noise trying to unlock the door. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Of course for his 18th I took him for his first 'legal' pint to the Duck and Drake and then the Adelphi. Don't think he was impressed

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