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Cutsyke

New music? Fuck new music.

Did myself an 80s playlist the other day. Played it though the stereo rather than the computers speakers which is, sadly, the norm these days. Put it on shuffle, sounded fan-fecking-tastic.

Oblivious 3:12 Aztec Camera High Land, Hard Rain Indie Rock 1 of 13 147
Reward 2:44 The Teardrop Explodes Kilimanjaro + Wilder Rock The Teardrop Explodes 1 66
Party Fears Two 5:14 Associates Sulk Alternative Associates 8 of 17 96
The Cutter 3:55 Echo & The Bunnymen Porcupine (Reissue) General Alternative Echo & the Bunnymen 1 86
Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) 3:49 The Icicle Works The Icicle Works General Rock Icicle Works 9 77
Young Manhood 3:51 The Wild Swans Magnitude (The Sire Years) [Bonus Track Version] Alternative The Wild Swans 1 of 31 11
The Whole Of The Moon 4:59 The Waterboys This Is The Sea Folk-Rock The Waterboys 2 279
The Story Of The Blues (Pt 1) 3:56 Wah! The Handy Wah! Whole : Songs From The Repertwah! : The Maverick Years 2000 Alternative & Punk Wah! 11 of 18 129
Uncertain Smile (12" Remix) 9:59 The The 45 RPM - The Singles of The The Alternative The The 1 of 8 24
Road to Nowhere 4:19 Talking Heads The Best of Talking Heads (Remastered) Rock Talking Heads 14 of 18 69
Since Yesterday 2:55 Strawberry Switchblade Strawberry Switchblade Pop Strawberry Switchblade 1 of 20 24
Come Back 3:36 Spear of Destiny The Best of Spear of Destiny Pop Spear of Destiny 16 of 20 23
Tainted Love (7" Single) 2:40 Soft Cell The Very Best of Soft Cell Pop Soft Cell 2 of 19 76
Bigmouth Strikes Again 3:14 The Smiths The Queen Is Dead Rock The Smiths 6 of 10 21
Spellbound 3:18 Siouxsie & The Banshees Once Upon A Time: The Singles Indie Rock Siouxsie and the Banshees 9 of 10 15
The Bottom Line 4:36 Big Audio Dynamite This Is Big Audio Dynamite Rock Big Audio Dynamite 4 106
Flaming Sword 3:14 The Care Diamonds & Emeralds New Wave Care 4 90
Rock The Casba 3:40 The Clash Combat Rock The Clash 14 of 16 68
She Sells Sanctuary 4:23 The Cult Love (Remastered) Rock The Cult 9 of 10 82
Just Can't Get Enough 3:41 Depeche Mode The Best of Depeche Mode, Vol. 1 Alternative Depeche Mode 2 of 18 35
Boy Meets Girl 3:07 Haircut 100 A Strange Kind Of Love Retro Haircut 100 1 59
Temptation 4:39 Heaven 17 The Best of Heaven 17 Alternative Heaven 17 16 of 16 144
Love Action (I Believe In Love) 5:02 The Human League Dare! (Remastered) Alternative The Human League 9 of 10 64
Driving Away from Home (Jim's Tune) 4:13 It's Immaterial Life's Hard and Then You Die Rock It's Immaterial 1 of 13 18
April Skies 4:02 The Jesus & Mary Chain Darklands Alternative The Jesus & Mary Chain 6 of 10 1
World Shut Your Mouth 3:08 Julian Cope Unknown Album Julian Cope 77
Closest Thing to Heaven 4:50 The Kane Gang The Bad and Lowdown World of the Kane Gang Rock The Kane Gang 7 of 16 3
PURE 3:49 LIGHTNING SEEDS LIKE YOU DO - BEST OF THE LIGHTNING SEEDS Unknown The Lightning Seeds 7 107
Rattlesnakes 3:29 Lloyd Cole & The Commotions Rattlesnakes Power Pop Lloyd Cole and the Commotions 3 78
The first picture of you 4:30 The Lotus Eaters The First Picture of you Pop The Lotus Eaters 1 of 13 72
Bizarre Love Triangle 4:22 New Order Brotherhood Alternative New Order 6 82
Felicity 2:35 Orange Juice You Can't Hide Your Love Forever General Rock Orange Juice 12 35
Enola Gay 3:33 Orchestral Manoeuvres In the Dark The OMD Singles Pop Orchestral Manoeuvres In the Dark 3 of 18 15
Reach 4:14 The Pale Fountains Pacific Street Indie Rock 1 of 15 4
When Love Breaks Down 3:44 Prefab Sprout Two Wheels Good Rock Prefab Sprout 4 of 14 14
Wordy Rappinghood 6:27 Tom Tom Club Tom Tom Club Pop Tom Tom Club 1 of 12 98
Angel Of Harlem 3:49 U2 Rattle And Hum Rock U2 10 of 17 172
Breaking Point (Demo Version) 4:17 Bourgie Bourgie Park Lane Archives Alternative Various Artists 1 of 22 21
Late Doors

Eye wateringly good, two or three I've never heard of though, The Care Diamonds ?, Lotus Eaters? but otherwise all evocatively brilliant. Dunno why the decade gets the bad press it does. It was probably the last great decade for genius pop songs and the excitement of the new dance stuff following that was immense. Sadly only the popular club stuff of the latter registered with me. Like a new generation took over.
Frazier Cranium

There IS nothing new, that's a big problem for me.
sheeps

Kylie.
Heyho

We should have a 'best playlists' thread
carp

https://soundcloud.com/manukahoneys/below-the-belt
Dock

sheeps wrote:
Kylie.


You should be so lucky!
Late Doors

Yeah probably as a genre guitar bands as we know them are at a creative impasse as far as new music is concerned. Can't imagine any quantum leap happening just a slow evolving of technology and absorbing of other genres in much the same way other creative processes do from beer brewing to painting.

What i always find a bit strange is exactly why does that matter. Why can't music be worthwhile, magnificent in fact just because it doesn't push boundaries? We don't apply that criteria to other arts or food and drink for that matter. Literature for example. There is only so much you can do with words and structure but it's all in the imagination skill and character of the author. Same with guitar music for me. As long as people like Jack White, Arctic Monkeys, Sturgill Simpson, Gary Clark, Thom Yorke and just lately Courtney Barnett are doing the same with music that keeps it fresh enough for me. When music is judged purely on newness it becomes  a fashion  rather than art. Yes pushing the boundaries is a vital element of art but not the only one.

In terms of newness and freshness to the ears there's tons of stuff out there. Uncut has introduced to me for instance whole mines of stuff from Africa and European grime but chuff me there's only a limited amount of time, money and cd space available.
carp

Bell end tosser
Dock

carp wrote:
Bell end tosser


That Tourette's hasn't cleared up yet then Carp?
carp

That last comment went in the wrong place. Can't be added to sort it. Thom Yorke blah blah blah fucking old men same old stuff blah blah blah. Old cunts covers in pubs blah blah blah. Fucking hell blah blah blah dead
carp

Dock wrote:
carp wrote:
Bell end tosser


That Tourette's hasn't cleared up yet then Carp?


See below. I did not mean that to go there
carp

Dock wrote:
carp wrote:
Bell end tosser


That Tourette's hasn't cleared up yet then Carp?


How original. It was a comment posted to the wrong place and I tried to put it right as you may see from the timings of my posts. Clear I don't fit. No worries. Xx
fartcatcher

er - back on topic

Kane Gang shone brightly but briefly - think they were geordies. Album was ace - had on cassette. May well repurchase.
Dock

carp wrote:
Dock wrote:
carp wrote:
Bell end tosser


That Tourette's hasn't cleared up yet then Carp?


How original. It was a comment posted to the wrong place and I tried to put it right as you may see from the timings of my posts. Clear I don't fit. No worries. Xx


Whooooah! What's up Carp? It was just a joke.
Grind

I think my ithingummy throws up a similar sort of playlist whenever I use it (normally when I'm out mowing the lawn for three hours!).

Hardly obscure, but I was pleasantly surprised when Big Country and Billy Bragg came up yesterday.

I obviously liked them enough at the time to buy their stuff, but the songs seem well crafted even now.

Ooh, ooh, Ride playing now. Gotta go space out and that.
Frazier Cranium

'The Crossing' is a class album.

I don't mind lots of the newer bands but very few are exciting or different to what's been done.  Not knocking their talent, just would like a semblance of originality.
Late Doors

New Music ?   Here in Huddersfield, the absolute vanguard of modern music we host the world famous contemporary music festival. Have done for years. They come from all over the planet to perform and appreciate new forms and push the boundaries of all musical genres. It is a veritable feast of imagination and talent internationally renowned and brings sonic forms that both challenge and stimulate. I bet  only a tiny percent of you know this about us and yet one dog gets shagged by one man one time.......

However, the point is, new music is constantly evolving its just that most of it is, well, a bit shit.
Grind

I suspect most music has always been a bit shit - but there will always be nuggets of gold surfacing all the time - the problem I have (which I suppose could be remedied fairly easily) is that I don't routinely listen to music on the radio any more (I listen to the USA equivalent of Radio 4 - NPR).

In fact, I think the only "new" stuff I listen to is usually prompted by threads on here.

Every now and again I hear something I like on the TV and I'll follow up and find out whose song it was, but I'm definitely on the slippery slope to dodderdum.
Cutsyke

I have NPR on in the car.
Butts

I love the NPR 24/7 channel, much better than anything over here.

I think the 80s was better than the 90s but not as good as the 70s which was better than the 60s.

I've just got the Lloyd Cole box set and it's terrific, I prefer them to The Smiths. Most of the best 80s was a direct/indirect result of punk (post punk) including quite a bit on Cuts' playlist. It's an influence that will never go away and you can still see it in newsih bands (Sauna Youth, Viet Cong).

I agree with LD (as usual). I'm turned off by experimentation for its own sake. All new music has to have a reference point without which it's just ego. The joy in new music (for me) is how to stirs interest in the old, and the occasional moment of genius which transcends everything (the first track on the new My Morning Jacket, for example).

I think the 90s might have been the worst. Just tried to choose †abest album for an online poll from 1994 and was faced with the fag end of Brit Pop, nu-metal and Marilyn Manson. Guided By Voices would be my favourite group from that decade.

80s music is instantly recognisable by the production, thankfully most of the quality on that playlist stands the test of time - OMD looked great on the telly recently and High Land, Hard Rain remains a truly great record. I stumped up £40 for Pete Wylie's crowd-funded new one about 9 months ago, no sign of it yet.
Dock

Butts wrote:
I love the NPR 24/7 channel, much better than anything over here.

I think the 80s was better than the 90s but not as good as the 70s which was better than the 60s.

I've just got the Lloyd Cole box set and it's terrific, I prefer them to The Smiths. Most of the best 80s was a direct/indirect result of punk (post punk) including quite a bit on Cuts' playlist. It's an influence that will never go away and you can still see it in newsih bands (Sauna Youth, Viet Cong).

I agree with LD (as usual). I'm turned off by experimentation for its own sake. All new music has to have a reference point without which it's just ego. The joy in new music (for me) is how to stirs interest in the old, and the occasional moment of genius which transcends everything (the first track on the new My Morning Jacket, for example).

I think the 90s might have been the worst. Just tried to choose †abest album for an online poll from 1994 and was faced with the fag end of Brit Pop, nu-metal and Marilyn Manson. Guided By Voices would be my favourite group from that decade.

80s music is instantly recognisable by the production, thankfully most of the quality on that playlist stands the test of time - OMD looked great on the telly recently and High Land, Hard Rain remains a truly great record. I stumped up £40 for Pete Wylie's crowd-funded new one about 9 months ago, no sign of it yet.


Is a lot of that just personal opinion re which decades were better than others for music? Surely every decade has standout moments, but itís a bit unfair to write off whole ten year periods over others. The majority of music I listen to is from the sixties but I still love other eraís. And to say the nineties werenít much cop is a bit of a blanket statement from you who has such a knowledge of and a broad taste in popular music. After all it was in the nineties when Uncut magazine started and begun name checking all those great burgeoning Americana artists for us to check out.
Cutsyke

I do listen to more modern stuff but just lately I've been backtracking a bit and realizing just how good some stuff was and still is.

Pretty amazing to think that some of the songs I love so much, some that have stood up so well and some that have become classics were written quickly (relatively speaking) and some by people learning their instruments as they go. I realize the same probably applies to an era but it's a stunning fact none the less.

Ian Dury I never paid him any mind, novelty act with his Rhythm Stick but how wrong can you be? Man was a genius writer and his band tight as hell.
Late Doors

Lloyd Cole, the thinking man's Smiths  Big part of the '80s soundtrack and his solo set these days is fabulous

It's just a bit of fun talking about "decades". To me, musical decades start and finish mid decade.
fartcatcher

Saw Ian Dury at Birmingham Town Hall - shambolic brilliance. One of the best front men I've ever seen.

Dury and Chris Difford of Squeeze both great chroniclers of the seedy side of London and the inspiration I suspect for Blur's Parklife.
Plastic Man

I saw Ian Dury & The Blockheads at the Hammersmith Odeon. He was a good act.

Supporting were Linton Kwesi Johnson (ok, but not quite my cup of tea) and "Root Boy Slim and The Sex Change Band", who were truly dreadful.

It was the only occasion when I have ever winessed a lead singer make a public appeal for groupies.

"Yeah,... and if any of you lurvly ladees wannna a piece of my luurve achon... form a queue outside my dressing room door..."

And this from a man that would have made me look anorectic, even today!
Grind

What position in the queue were you?

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