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Late Doors

Life Is a drink and you get drunk

When you're young.

So went the song on The  Jam's  Setting Sons album . (Not the original but on the just reissued as a super duper deluxe box set edition with  outtakes live versions and dvds which got me thinking about this)

As I get older I get more and more detached from young people. In fact come to think of it i didn't much care for them when I was one. The only ones i come into contact with any semblance of dialogue are at work or two or three mates kids. I've got to say they are a bit weird. Similar in some ways to what we were but so different in others.

They way they get drunk for instance to bring it back to the title. Shorts, getting drunk before they go out and the vast array of drinks available. . They don't seem to have any political opinions either one way or the other which is worrying (most un Jam like). All they seem bothered about is being "cool" Not saying we were any better or worse but certainly different
Grind

They don't make 'em like they used to.

* Thinks about it. *

** Worries. **
Frazier Cranium

I often wonder what I was deemed as being like by my elders.  Re politics, there were a few of us who used to argue but it was all more an angry young man syndrome I think than serious debate.
Grind

I was a cocky gobby little know-it-all with some fairly nasty right wing views.

I'm now a cocky slightly larger gobby know-it-all (except when he forgets) with left-leaning views.

I'm not sure when (and how) this transition happened exactly, especially as we were strapped for cash when I was younger and money isn't an issue now (famous last words?).

This seems to be the opposite of what you'd usually expect, but I'm glad I saw the errors in some of the ill-considered "arguments" of my youth.

I'm still a work in progress, that's for sure.
Forest

Re: Life Is a drink and you get drunk

Late Doors wrote:
When you're young.

So went the song on The  Jam's  Setting Sons album . (Not the original but on the just reissued as a super duper deluxe box set edition with  outtakes live versions and dvds which got me thinking about this)

They way they get drunk for instance to bring it back to the title. Shorts, getting drunk before they go out and the vast array of drinks available. . They don't seem to have any political opinions either one way or the other which is worrying (most un Jam like). All they seem bothered about is being "cool" Not saying we were any better or worse but certainly different


Getting drunk before going out or pre-drinks or in its even shorter name 'prinks' as its called in our house is purely down to cost.
fartcatcher

They seem better educated but less knowledgeable than we were.
Plastic Man

fartcatcher wrote:
They seem better educated but less knowledgeable than we were.


I don't think that either "better educated" or "less knowledgeable" quite hit the mark.

From my perpective, young people now have the oppotunity to engage in tertiary education that was not available to their forebears.

What they (or society in general?) benefit from their participation in tertiary education is often debatable.
fartcatcher

Plastic Man wrote:
fartcatcher wrote:
They seem better educated but less knowledgeable than we were.


I don't think that either "better educated" or "less knowledgeable" quite hit the mark.

From my perpective, young people now have the oppotunity to engage in tertiary education that was not available to their forebears.

What they (or society in general?) benefit from their participation in tertiary education is often debatable.


yes that's what i meant

I don't think that spending half their lives on social media helps either.
Cutsyke

Kids are alright. The world's changed, again.
Dalek

Plastic Man wrote:
fartcatcher wrote:
They seem better educated but less knowledgeable than we were.


I don't think that either "better educated" or "less knowledgeable" quite hit the mark.

From my perpective, young people now have the oppotunity to engage in tertiary education that was not available to their forebears.

What they (or society in general?) benefit from their participation in tertiary education is often debatable.


That's what I found.

University was not realistically accessible to me. I was offered places, but had to turn them down due to personal circumstances.

I now have an expertise that was not available via University which has taken me all over the world and I have met countless interesting people. My Grandad always told me that travel would broaden my mind - although the extent of travel was beyond his thoughts.

My D1 has just gone to uni and is on a course where the expected attendance is 5 days 40+ hours per week - and she is doing it and loving it.  There have already been 6 dropouts since the end of Sept in year 1!

I say "Well Done Her" - and may she and the others long continue. And if I sense she is starting to slack, I will tell her so.  She has an excellent opportunity in front of her, which she has earned by her own efforts, and if I become a pain in the arse, but she emerges with the qualification she wants, then I will have done my best as a Dad. But the credit will be all hers.

I know however of other uni courses that have a 13 hour attendance requirement - but I am told that there are people dropping out of these too!!!
Frazier Cranium

Earlier this century, I did a 'full time' MA at Leeds Met.  'Full time' meant a lot of homework - watching films and TV drama, reviewing films, writing 'films', reading film books, reading scripts and then submitting a fair bit of written work for each module.  What a forking joke, was this what 'pressured' environment full time students had to endure?  The quality of your work apparently had to be high as the A or above pass marks were unattainable, but in truth you had to be a bit simple not to at least pass each module.  And fuckit anyway, this was a course about creating/writing, what's not to enjoy and to savour?  The lectures signified maybe 4 attendances a week, of 3-4 hours each, but if you didn't attend you weren't bollocked or even criticised.  It was a two-year course which usually was 3 years, I believe, so that would make you think there was a lot more workload.  Well it didn't feel too heavy a workload, trust me.

By the end of the first year, something like 6 students left the course as it was allegedly too much stress.  I was stunned, especially by one lad who was a grand fella, in both meanings, and very clever and entertaining too.  One left because he was/is bipolar, and he was a good lad too, but the rest left because they were lazy twonks, or at least that's how it looked.  Waste of  a year and a few £grand
fartcatcher

There's inevitable been some dumbing down, as many universities and degree courses were created in a worthy attempt to reduce unemployment figures. All it achieved was delaying unemployment for three years,

There's fierce competition for jobs even amongst graduates in traditional subjects. Seems if you don't get a 2:1 now, it reduces your chances significantly.

I fear for the Media Studies, Event Management and Equestrian Psychology graduates from some of the newer universities, many of whom will end up working in Call Centres or worse.

I can't talk though. I was a right lazy f*cker and lucky not to get thrown out. Luckily D1 and S2 have Mrs FC's work ethic.
Late Doors

Yeah the kids will always find a way through  the shit the previous generation leave 'em and long may that continue.

Like i say I'm out if touch and rely on you parents for info but I'm sure price comes into it but can't help thinking there us more to the "prinks"  at home before going out than price. Can't quite put my finger on what. Lots more to do at home for sure than in my day but what's the fun being in yer mums house with your mates ?. Maybe its some kind of social engineering. Y'know, keep the fuckers at home consuming and watching adverts then bang 'em out into the night time economy.

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