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Kruushchev by William Taunman

Biography of the Russian leader. We learn all about his incredibly humble start in life that he never forgot then he's meteoric rise to the top. A complex man. He could be funny, charming, clever, ruthless, cruel and stupid all in one day, all in one hour.

The trouble with this biography, which won the 2004 Pulitzer Prize for biographies, is that the author tells you all the way through that most of Khrushchev's  success came about by people taking him at first glance and under estimating him believing him to be a peasant clown. The author then goes on to try to paint a picture of a man who was a peasant clown.

There are some jaw dropping moments in it as well as some laugh out loud moments, if you can get by the authors belief that America can do what the fuck it likes and that anything like socialist principles are doomed to failure then you may just find a good, insightful book here.
Dock

Sounds a good one. Did it mention the incident involving him banging his shoe on the desk at a UN meeting? Or is that just one of those urban myths? The image that conjures up always makes me laugh. I suppose with his hardened appearence and him being from an era when everything Russian was vilified, he got an unfair bad press in the West. I read a book earlier this year about The Kennedy's time in the White House and the writer David Talbot paints Kruschev in a very favorable light. Re: Peasant clown. I'm just finishing reading a book about Abe Lincoln, and he came across the same kind of prejudice because he was from a poor farming background in Kentucky. I think its safe to say that Kruschev or Lincoln were cut from a much finer cloth than a lot of the arseholes in office today.
lolwarlol

Yes it does mention the shoe incident. It says that though there is no recorded image of it he is known for it world wide. He was mildly obsessed by shoes. As a peasant youth he had none, later, peasants wore home made woven shoes. He often cited peasants footwear when reminding people how things had got better.

One of the things i loved about him was his coarseness.

"You may tell anyone you want" he said, "that we will never accept Adenauer as a representative of Germany. He is a zero. If Adenauer pulls down his pants and you look at him from behind you can see Germany is divided. If you look at him from the front, you can see that Germany will never stand"

The book is filled with little stories like that.

My overall opinion is that he turned back Stalinism, he sowed the seeds for Glasnost, Gorbachev says he was very important. The thing is, the Soviet system never really stood a chance because they were under constant attack from the USA, they felt that they had to play catch up all the time, that they Americans had surrounded them with weapons. This book reveals that despite Khrushchev bragging that he had tons of weapons that could shatter the world, they had fuck all.

What he excelled at, and it was later to be used against him, was his common touch, he could mix it with any peasant, often he'd pass some in a farm and he'd get out, roll his sleeves up and join in. Not for the photo op, but because that is where he started, i believe, its where he felt truly comfortable.
Tank Girl

which lincoln book are you reading dock? have you read gore vidal's?

that shoe incident is def in the book, but Lol can go into it, i havent read it.
Dock

Tank Girl wrote:
which lincoln book are you reading dock? have you read gore vidal's?

that shoe incident is def in the book, but Lol can go into it, i havent read it.


I'm reading Team of Rivals by Doris Kearns Goodwin. Its a belter of a book. A review will follow.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Tank Girl wrote:
which lincoln book are you reading dock? have you read gore vidal's?

that shoe incident is def in the book, but Lol can go into it, i havent read it.


all on youtube if you search for him and 'UN'

theres also a good moment where he heckles PM MacMillan in Russian to which SuperMac pauses his speech and asks if someone can translate

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