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fartcatcher

Karen Carpenter

Just imo - but I reckon she had the best voice I've heard and i never tire of hearing it.

She could convey emotion without bellowing at you or screwing up her face.

'Goodbye To Love' is one of her best. Although she didn't write the lyrics they provide an appropriate soundtrack to an unhappy life which ended when she died of anorexia at the age of 32.

X factor hopefuls would do well to model themselves on her rather than the histrionics of serial tune murderers Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey and Beyonce.

There's a mean guitar solo at the end as well.


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Frazier Cranium

Preferred Carly Simon myself, Karen C was a bit too melancholy imo, plus she always evokes sad thoughts when I hear her voice, bless her.

Tell you who I like - Lesley Gore!  And I bloody love most of the girl groups of the 60s, it's one of those guilty pleasures I suppose, got about 10 cds worth of 'em
Heyho

Can't say I am fond of many female singers to be honest.

Joplin had that gravelly voice epitamised in the studio version of Bobby McGee. She sings it as if, finally, she is enjoying life yet still has that disturbed undercurrent.

If you listen to early Deborah Harry theres also a uniqueness which makes it all that more disturbing to hear here live nowadays.

There, there I've just hijacked this thread turning it into a best female singer thead.

As for Carpenter - well Mrs H always liked here
Dock

I love The Carpenters. Brought up on them, my Mum always had the Greatest Hits compilation on. KC had a wonderful voice. For me personally I like both male and female artists. If it sounds good who cares what gender the singer is. Some of my favorites:

Linda Thompson
Martha Reeves
Wanda Jackson
Natalie Merchant
Aretha Franklin
Buffy St Marie
The Abba Lasses
Sinead O' Connor
Adele
Beverley Knight
Ann Peebles
Tina Turner
Emmylou Harris
Dusty Springfield

The list goes on. It really does.
Frazier Cranium

Me I don't care what gender the singer is but as a young fellow mi lad I did prefer groups led by male singers.  Just personal taste, not related to gender... for instance I absolutely bloody detested the freakishly voiced Stylistics, and was none too keen on the Bee Gees.  I think you learn the older you get to appreciate that a good voice isn't necessarily the 'official' good singing voice.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Me I don't care what gender the singer is but as a young fellow mi lad I did prefer groups led by male singers.  Just personal taste, not related to gender... for instance I absolutely bloody detested the freakishly voiced Stylistics, and was none too keen on the Bee Gees.  I think you learn the older you get to appreciate that a good voice isn't necessarily the 'official' good singing voice.


Philistine! Any more talk like that and I won't lend you my new 3cd compilation of unreleased Robin Gibb songs from the late sixties.
fartcatcher

Cerys Matthews has a fine pair of lungs and a great stage presence.

Thea Gilmore if you want something rather quieter.

I was never very keen on the folkie finger in ear types like Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell.
Frazier Cranium

I like the BeeGees, I didn't used to.

Cerys Matthews' music is shite though
Grind

She lost me with the "Every day, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" nonsense.

Oh, and Karen Carpenter seemed a bit wooden. *

* Actually, she has (had) a great voice. I remember hearing her as a nipper and having a mental image of what she looked like in my head which in no way coincided with how she really appeared. Very strange.

I'm fond of quite a range of female voices - from Shirley Manson through Skye to Kirsty MacColl to Aimee Mann to the fat bird in The Mamas and the Papas and the 10,000 maniacs woman. Amongst others, obviously.

To some extent, I suspect it's more to do with the songwriting than the actual singers?

I don't much care for Fergie (the Black Eyed Peas version) as it all seems too forced.
Grind

Tracy Thorne (sp?) - Everything but the Girl - she's got a great voice too.
Frazier Cranium

Tracy Thorn is fantastic - Fact.

FFS if it wasn't for Shout I'd praise Lulu!
Heyho

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Tracy Thorn is fantastic - Fact.

FFS if it wasn't for Shout I'd praise Lulu!


Christ you will be singing the praises of Cilla Black next
Frazier Cranium

Get fucked la'  Did enjoy that ITV drama about her though
Frazier Cranium

God, can't remember its name.
carp

I like KC. Always had a big thing for Diana Ross in my yoof. It was mainly in my hand. * checks under bed for crispy tissues*
fartcatcher

If you like raw power look no further than Florence. She could stun a buffalo at 50 yds.

When she did that Gimme Shelter duet with poor old Mick (Jagger) you could see him recoil when she let rip like he'd been hit by a sonic boom. He's probably deaf now if he wasn't before.

At least Dizzee Rascal had the sense to stand on the other side of the stage.
Cutsyke

The voice has got to fit the song.

Aretha sings Respect so much better than Otis.

Natalie Merchant sings Because The Night better than Springsteen.

I love Stax, Motown Atlantic type soul female singers, Phil Spector produced girl groups.

Kim Deal, Debbie Harry, Hope Sandoval, Sharon Jones, fuck, there's just as many good female as male singers.
Cutsyke

Could any man do this justice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tFmjUy5ymo
Heyho

Well then if we are really getting silly lets not forget the plethora of women punk singers - Siouxsie, Poly Styrene, Daniele Dax, Beki Bondage to name but a few. Raw energy. Of course let's forget Toyah!

And getting back to a little bit of seriousness what about Patti Smith - her version of White Rabbit is awesome.

I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Alison Moyet.
Plastic Man

Heyho wrote:
Of course let's forget Toyah!


I don't understand why anyone would one want to forget Toyah.

Ith a mythterwy to me.
Heyho

A bit more obscure this one - Cathy Richardson.

For those that don't know her she is the current lead singer for Jefferson Starship. As well as being one of the fittest 47 year olds going she has a right pair of lungs on her.
Grind

Dolly Parton, but she does have her knockers.
Heyho

Grind wrote:
Dolly Parton, but she does have her knockers.


Quite true. Not a bad lass, you wouldn't knock her.
Frazier Cranium

I've always liked her simply for being upfront.


That and she has a right rack on her.
Dock

I love the Lee Hazlewood lyric "Happier than Dolly Parton's guitar". Genius!
Grind

Islands in the stream: that is what they are.
Grind

Anyway, I reckon that Beth Orton sounds nice too.

I was looking back through those I mentioned the first time around and have now concluded a few of them simply have voices that are "right" for the music they play.

Which, I guess, is sometimes the point.

The B52s girls have weird voices that completely suit their band, but probably wouldn't work well for other styles?

I like Annie Lennox' and Stevie Nicks' (early stuff, anyway) voices, but I'm put off by the fact that they both seem to be nutters.

Some people seem to love her, but I'm not a fan of Chrissie Hynde. No idea why, as the songs are better than most, but her voice annoys me.

Tomato. Potato.
Frazier Cranium

Adele has a great voice, as does Amy Winehouse on recordings, pain that she was.
Grind

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Adele has a great voice, as does Amy Winehouse on recordings, pain that she was.


Agreed on both.

The trouble is, I can't listen to more than a couple of songs of either before I  fidget or get bored and put on something I can tolerate for longer.

* Currently listening to one of the older Arctic Monkeys albums - he's got a good voice for a lad? **

** As does KD Lang
Grind

Just thought of another - Fairground Attraction woman?
fartcatcher

I never really rated Diana Ross. Her voice is a bit thin imo.

they say she got the gig as Supremes lead singer because Berry Gordy was shagging her.

The lasses out of Abba had really good voices, but the material never really gave them a chance to show off.
Frazier Cranium

Perfect pop group were Abba, Agnetha has done good solo stuff recently too.  Not my scene really but the quality is there.

Me too FC, never liked Diana Ross, she wasn't even the best Supreme and I'll never forgive her for missing that open goal
Dock

My understanding is that the Diana and Berry relationship heralded in her solo career, or to be exact when The Supremes changed their name to Diana Ross & The Supremes. I think the early supremes line up and her as lead was a commercial decision. Berry Gordy is well known for his lack of sentiment. His priority is cash-money. Always was always will be. The man is worth a fucking fortune, make's the McCartney's and The Stones of rock wealth look like poor cousins. I agree about better women at Motown. Martha Reeves being my personal favourite but also Kim Weston and Brenda Holloway to name but two, run rings around DR for quality if you ask me......I know you won't.
fartcatcher

I forgot Sandy Denny. Beautiful voice and accomplished songwriter.

Sadly she was also a total pisshead. Fell down the stairs and bashed her head. Died of a brain haemorrhage 4 days later - aged 31.

RIP


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