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Frazier Cranium

Jools Holland's 'Later', 2nd series 2014

I'm probably not 'with it' as most of you lot regarding new sounds, and Later is my best source for remotely new or recent acts.  As with all these Laters, I find myself getting bored too easily but always stay hopeful that something will rekindle my aural excitement    .

First of the new series - I watch Fridays' extended editions me - had Alt J, Ryan Adams, the O Jays and Jungle on, all of whom I've heard before.

I'm going to try and regularly, sparsely review Later but problem is I've already forgotten the other acts who were on cos they did nowt that really appealed to me.  Please fill in the gaps if you can be arsed, don't bother if you can't who cares eh, shitbag?

Having said that, I can't see the fuss about Alt J either, despite them being a Leeds band (so I heard, last year).  No disrespect to them though, they're pretty funkygroovyman but it's just not for me.

Jungle are 21st century disco imho, and good at that, but not much to set my soul alight.

Ryan Adams - very good, does anyone really dislike him?

And the O'Jays were pretty sound, they sang Backstabbers and then Love Train.  The trio's voices are affected by age that's obvious but blimey they've still got great vocal chords in 'em  

And Jools naturally is still ace.  I remember thinking, when watching his first appearance on The Tube, that I didn't like his voice much to say he was a presenter now, but he's always been great fun and that has only increased over the years for me.

There's so much more BBC TV could do for pop music fans other than showing lots of crowd scenes and flags and people sitting on others' shoulders and blocking people's views, interspersed by live music festivals

Later is fcking ace, long may it continue.
fartcatcher

There's always a great variety of acts on the show and I like the fact that they all seem to show interest in each other's music.

Yes he has got less annoying over the years. Damn fine pianist as well.
Forest

I'd give it a miss this week.
Frazier Cranium



I might fast-forward through it on that advice, Forest, ta
Frazier Cranium

Actually, it wasn't that bad a show imo.

Marianne Faithful - the songs are good, the singing not so.  We didn't need to hear her interviewed though, or sing with Jools playing piano.

First Aid Kit - decent.  Band Of Skulls - so so.
Hozier - pretty decent.  Go Go Pengiuins - er nowt p p p p particularly special, hoho.
Forest

Marianne Faithfull - all credit to her for making a career out of the fact she shagged Jagger but her performance was utter shite even for this show. Do people pay good money for it? They need their heads testing if they do.

First Aid Kit- were these the hipster wankers playing bad jazz? Dreadful.

Hozier- heard their song a few times on the radio it's ok but forgetable once it's finished

Didn't watch the rest.

Looking forward to next weeks.
Grind

Next weeks are a decent beat combo and no mistake.
Frazier Cranium

Forest wrote:
Marianne Faithfull - all credit to her for making a career out of the fact she shagged Jagger but her performance was utter shite even for this show. Do people pay good money for it? They need their heads testing if they do.

First Aid Kit- were these the hipster wankers playing bad jazz? Dreadful.

Hozier- heard their song a few times on the radio it's ok but forgetable once it's finished

Didn't watch the rest.

Looking forward to next weeks.


could you please refrain from swearing on this thread, there is no need for it, potty mouth.  And 'each to their own' regards music, Mister Know It All
Forest

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Forest wrote:
Marianne Faithfull - all credit to her for making a career out of the fact she shagged Jagger but her performance was utter shite even for this show. Do people pay good money for it? They need their heads testing if they do.

First Aid Kit- were these the hipster wankers playing bad jazz? Dreadful.

Hozier- heard their song a few times on the radio it's ok but forgetable once it's finished

Didn't watch the rest.

Looking forward to next weeks.


could you please refrain from swearing on this thread, there is no need for it, potty mouth.  And 'each to their own' regards music, Mister Know It All


I apologise in advance for the bad language for this weeks review 😄
Frazier Cranium

You're a bad mo'fu' you are.
Dock

I think First Aid Kit is a fucking stupid name for a band. That is all.
Grind

As is We Were Promised Jetpacks, but apparently they're quite good.
Forest

This weeks effort (no swearing)

Ali Campbell and two other ex members of UB40 who've turned into a UB40 tribute act and not a very good one either. Ali needs to lay off the pies in my opinion, not sure but maybe he's comfort eating after falling out with his brother.

Gorgon City - bit Radio 1 these but pleasant enough.

Future Islands - never heard of them before, middle aged bloke 'dad' dancing to some weak electro pop. Nice voice.

Jamie T - apparently he's back, wish he hadnt bothered. Does the T stand for terrible?

Damien Rice - meh
Late Doors

Not watched any of it so far but its soundig a bit lame. First Aid Kit are two Swedish Sisters (the musical type not the type in your dreams) and are a long way off jaz of any description and ability. I like 'em. (the ones in my dreams aint bad either)
sudokapi

Don't want to bring controversy to a forum that likes to avoid controversy or conflict but isn't Later with Jools the worst music programme since The Tube?  Lower in the useful contribution to music on TV category than Crackerjack.
Frazier Cranium

Bollocks to controversy, that's shit man!
sudokapi

Old Grey Whistle Test only programme to look like a real gig. New music - cartoons! People falling over. Fall asleep watching it. Wake up watching something completely different.
Dock

I could listen to Jools Holland play boogie woogie piano or talk about music all day and not get bored. I love the man. As for the Later programme itself it disappeared up its own arse about five years ago. Same goes for the New Year’s Hootenanny. A lot of the audience have that very-hittable smug look about them as well. That look that the ‘In’ cliques have at gigs. All those wankers chasing the next ‘I heard them first’ undiscovered band, when in the final analysis they wouldn’t know shit from clay when it comes to good music.
Frazier Cranium

Forest wrote:
This weeks effort (no swearing)

Ali Campbell and two other ex members of UB40 who've turned into a UB40 tribute act and not a very good one either. Ali needs to lay off the pies in my opinion, not sure but maybe he's comfort eating after falling out with his brother.

Gorgon City - bit Radio 1 these but pleasant enough.

Future Islands - never heard of them before, middle aged bloke 'dad' dancing to some weak electro pop. Nice voice.

Jamie T - apparently he's back, wish he hadnt bothered. Does the T stand for terrible?

Damien Rice - meh


After the first track by Ali Campbell I was ready to agree with you (though it's a decent track, just not here) but then he sang Silhouette which is a very pleasant little ditty and his voice was fine this time.

Also have to say that I thought Jamie T was really good  And Damien Rice was fine too.  Gorgon City were boring and Future Islands sounded a bit like Plan B or John Newman or anyone else with a weird high pitched sound coming out of their gobs.  And the dancing was embarrassing, bollocks to Jools describing it as something really good
Late Doors

No one is selling it very well are they not going to bother catching up then just wait till the next one. Must admit it was getting a bit mundane towrds the back end of the last series

Ohhh... CRACKERJACK
Frazier Cranium

Do what you like, I'm not trying to sell it
Dock

Forest wrote:
This weeks effort (no swearing)

Ali Campbell and two other ex members of UB40 who've turned into a UB40 tribute act and not a very good one either. Ali needs to lay off the pies in my opinion, not sure but maybe he's comfort eating after falling out with his brother.

Gorgon City - bit Radio 1 these but pleasant enough.

Future Islands - never heard of them before, middle aged bloke 'dad' dancing to some weak electro pop. Nice voice.

Jamie T - apparently he's back, wish he hadnt bothered. Does the T stand for terrible?

Damien Rice - meh


Saw a bit of a recent UB40 gig from The Montreux Jazz Festival on Sky Arts 1 (yes, that’s right folks I said SKY. May the lord strike me down for watching the devil’s own channel FFS!) and can I say for the record Ali Campbell is looking a bit porcine. Needs to lay off the Reggae Reggae sauce a bit if you ask me…….I know you won’t.
Frazier Cranium

I'd agree but he still has a great voiceand that's really all that matters in proper music
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
I'd agree but he still has a great voiceand that's really all that matters in proper music


Great voice? I wouldn't go that far. And his talking voice is exactly like T'Bearing's. Both Brummy knobbers if you ask me................I know you won't.
Frazier Cranium

Why bother asking when you've enlightened us already?
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Why bother asking when you've enlightened us already?


Good point well made. I see my mission in this life as enlightening those who are dull of mind and sprinkling a bit of stardust into the lives of everyday folk.
Forest

sudokapi wrote:
Don't want to bring controversy to a forum that likes to avoid controversy or conflict but isn't Later with Jools the worst music programme since The Tube?  Lower in the useful contribution to music on TV category than Crackerjack.


I was trying to think of any other music programmes. Can't think of many at all.
Frazier Cranium

I don't even understand the accusation of 'worst music programme'  It's a programme that transmits artistes playing music, some of it good, some of it not (matter of opinion of course) and interviews generally interesting musicians and music fans.
Frazier Cranium

Forgot to mention Beverley Knight was interviewed about some show she's in, and then she sang while Jools played.  Not to my liking really but she's got arrrremarkable voice.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Forgot to mention Beverley Knight was interviewed about some show she's in, and then she sang while Jools played.  Not to my liking really but she's got arrrremarkable voice.


Beverley Knight is a classy proposition. Amazing singer. The UK's number one Soul Sister if you ask me...........I know you won't.

Frazier Cranium

Is she the Uk's number one soul sister, Dock?
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Is she the Uk's number one soul sister, Dock?


I couldn't possibly comment.
Grind

That's not a dock, it's a ponguin.
Late Doors

Interesting that. On one hand i agree. How can music, any music be deemed as bad but yet surely there is some degree of merit to apply that differentiates between say Jimi Hendrix  undisputable genius and artist of the highest calibre and say heavy metal turgmeisters Anvil.

Yes a great deal of subjectivism applies as with all art, but like film there is surely a value or worth of the art that enables some kind of merit placement. For instance although i detest Queen and Genesis i can quite happily accept that artistically they are on a higher plain than say Jonathan Richman whom i love but is hardly up there in the artistic heights. Maybe he is.

Still not seen the show yet. I here Benjamin Booker is on this week and the Manics, got to be good that ?
Forest

The Manics. Wow, when did they get so middle of the road. Make Coldplay look edgey.
Frazier Cranium

Not watched all the latest yet but it looked good what I saw, Manics were decent and Robert Rudolph & Family were great... I need to look more into them, including what that thing he was playing is called, a bit like a horizontal slide guitar keyboards.  Not embarrassed by my lack of knowledge there at all
Late Doors

Forest wrote:
The Manics. Wow, when did they get so middle of the road. Make Coldplay look edgey.


Yep, i liked em but they've inevitably succumbed to middle aged mild discontent. Can a band keep up the ferocity of youth and young manhood into middle age? Can anyone? The thing with white guitar music is that it cant be angry or wild anymore, it's too mature now. It can only be more expressive, intelligent, broader and expansive and there is still plenty of creativity and interest but we ain't going to see any life changing bursts anymore are we. You'll get the odd minor exception of course and there is plenty of anger and ferocity in other genres and i for one can find plenty around to love.

Thought the whole show represented that. Lots to enjoy but only Benj Booker excited (me at least). Christ them Spandau twats are never going to need self esteem therapy are they?
Frazier Cranium

Well I feel compelled to tell you that last week's edition featured one of the best songs/performances I've ever seen, it reminded me of a few great artistes (who I'm no afficianado of, in truth) like Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley and even Fleetwood Mac's Lynsey Buckingham.  The singer was Ben Howard and the song 'End of the Affair' and I thought it was fecking ace.  Not particularly original, there seems to be a lot of really good male singers these days, but blimey, worth watching Later for just for this!

That said, I thought it a good edition and whilst I sort of agree with the comments about the Manics, they can still bloody churn out some good new toons, I thought 'Europa...' was very very good.
Forest

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Well I feel compelled to tell you that last week's edition featured one of the best songs/performances I've ever seen, it reminded me of a few great artistes (who I'm no afficianado of, in truth) like Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley and even Fleetwood Mac's Lynsey Buckingham.  The singer was Ben Howard and the song 'End of the Affair' and I thought it was fecking ace.  Not particularly original, there seems to be a lot of really good male singers these days, but blimey, worth watching Later for just for this!

That said, I thought it a good edition and whilst I sort of agree with the comments about the Manics, they can still bloody churn out some good new toons, I thought 'Europa...' was very very good.


That's had some airplay recently and every time it I hear it reminds me of the last Bon Iver album, I'm guessing it's the same producer or something.

Anyway, just caught 5 mins of last nights and it was Sinead O'Conner. Brilliant. That is all.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Well I feel compelled to tell you that last week's edition featured one of the best songs/performances I've ever seen, it reminded me of a few great artistes (who I'm no afficianado of, in truth) like Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley and even Fleetwood Mac's Lynsey Buckingham.  The singer was Ben Howard and the song 'End of the Affair' and I thought it was fecking ace.  Not particularly original, there seems to be a lot of really good male singers these days, but blimey, worth watching Later for just for this!

That said, I thought it a good edition and whilst I sort of agree with the comments about the Manics, they can still bloody churn out some good new toons, I thought 'Europa...' was very very good.


Dangerous ground. If I get to listen to this Ben Howard fella and he isn't as good as Nick Drake (which I highly doubt) I'll rip your heart out and feed it to you whilst your twitching corpse still draws breath.* Don't compare ND with the latest numpty to pop along with a guitar unless it's worthy of the comparison. Nick Drake was a total one off if you ask me.......I know you won't.


* And it won't be fed to you with a nice Chianti and some fava beans. Just an out of date can of Vimto and an orange viscount biscuit. As homicidal maniacs go I'm probably the tightest.
Frazier Cranium

One song, Hannibal Dockter, one song is all I'm on about.  And it is ace but like I say does not seem to be ultra original.  

And I wasn't comparing as such, I was commenting that the song reminded me of some other (great artists') music.  

It's ace but I'm confident his work is far far away from reaching those heights

Dwarffuckstick, threatening me!  Grrrr.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
One song, Hannibal Dockter, one song is all I'm on about.  And it is ace but like I say does not seem to be ultra original.  

And I wasn't comparing as such, I was commenting that the song reminded me of some other (great artists') music.  

It's ace but I'm confident his work is far far away from reaching those heights

Dwarffuckstick, threatening me!  Grrrr.


As coincidence would have it, it states dwarffuckstick under the heading 'Fathers occupation' on my son's birth certificate.
Frazier Cranium


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