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fartcatcher

Drummond's Mill

Always sad to see another bit of heritage destroyed. It beats me that these buildings are allowed to decay and eventually (making an assumption here) get torched by someone while we have a shortage of housing and much of what is being built is unaffordable for many people.

Leeds and Manchester seem to be doing a reasonable job of finding ways of preserving and/or converting these buildings, but Bradford seems to lag behind.  Hear about something like this about once a year I reckon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-35433715
Late Doors

Yep, sad. Huddersfield doesn't do a bad job but still quite a few grand Old mills wasting away especially in Marsden. Maybe a town gets the heritage it deserves.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

It was my great grandfather's company mill for a few decades until his son retired, and his son got the heave ho shortly before then about 1985. Mum and dad rented the top floor till about 1988 (when the shit of a CEO called Stefan Simmonds personally and with great relish threw out my dad and heavily pregnant mum zero notice) and my other uncle rented a basement area till about that time too.

And before any of you start the inheritance was frittered away by others and given out to cousins and second cousins many many years ago!

Place saw the rise and the fall of cotton and wool in Bradford. In the end Bradford companies like many across the North couldn't compete with the stuff produced in the Far East and north africa mainly by folks on slave wages without the protection of unions and democratic parties.

A few companies were renting space there but it was mainly empty.

As a kid I used wonder that the whole place was a tinder box. Linoleum floors and all sorts of since banned flammable paint, loads of dry as hell timber, tonnes of old cotton and wool waste - all waiting to go up.

When I was there one day in the summer holidays doing my work there was minor fire and they had a very good sprinkler system. Can't have been maintained up to anything like the old standard - this must have been 28 years ago.

Very sad - beautiful old building with a lot of history. It had many owners and thousands of Bradford families must have had a social and working connection to the place
Late Doors

I never for one moment thought your unswerving devotion and audacious affirmation of  Tory Policy had anything at all to do with hereditary wealth.  Interesting story though, cheers. I guess anyone can be the victim of ruthless bastards at the top of the business chains.    

Lets see what replaces it.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

My great grandfather started by selling cloth from a pushcart he built and was the son of a penniless German immigrant from a religious minority

His partner was an Irish catholic (like the other side of my family) and the two of them overcame tremendous discrimination at a time when there was no welfare state to become millionaires who provided good quality jobs to hundreds of Bradfordians

The was no safety net and failure was the only alternative

Neither of them went to posh schools. They went to the technical college at night but there was no university for folks like them. There were in the right town and the right business at the right time and built something when Made in Britain was a synonymous internationally with quality

I'll say it again - I didn't inherit anything apart from their values and some help with fees for a second rate public day school in Bradford

Also theres plenty of things I don't like about Tory policy and disapprove of in this neo-Blairite government.

But maybe I am 'Tory' and 'that' brand of Tory because my background is of folks who came here to escape dire poverty and famine and religious persecution. They came to Britain as it was booming and free and not because of benefits and a welfare state. They worked 7 days a week to make something out of their lives which they could keep and enjoy and share with those they loved.

I don't think anything significant will ever be built on the site - not in our lifetimes anyway. Maybe some houses but thats going to be a lot of rubble to clear - there'll be easier and cheaper places to built new houses in Bradford
fartcatcher

It bugs the hell out of me that brownfield sites are either just left or are used for warehousing/distrubution while new housing is built on greenfield sites with little or no infrastructure.
Dock

Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
My great grandfather started by selling cloth from a pushcart he built and was the son of a penniless German immigrant from a religious minority

His partner was an Irish catholic (like the other side of my family) and the two of them overcame tremendous discrimination at a time when there was no welfare state to become millionaires who provided good quality jobs to hundreds of Bradfordians

The was no safety net and failure was the only alternative

Neither of them went to posh schools. They went to the technical college at night but there was no university for folks like them. There were in the right town and the right business at the right time and built something when Made in Britain was a synonymous internationally with quality

I'll say it again - I didn't inherit anything apart from their values and some help with fees for a second rate public day school in Bradford

Also theres plenty of things I don't like about Tory policy and disapprove of in this neo-Blairite government.

But maybe I am 'Tory' and 'that' brand of Tory because my background is of folks who came here to escape dire poverty and famine and religious persecution. They came to Britain as it was booming and free and not because of benefits and a welfare state. They worked 7 days a week to make something out of their lives which they could keep and enjoy and share with those they loved.

I don't think anything significant will ever be built on the site - not in our lifetimes anyway. Maybe some houses but thats going to be a lot of rubble to clear - there'll be easier and cheaper places to built new houses in Bradford


What an interesting post Dawg! Worth popping back for. End of dispatch.
Late Doors

Indeed, very interesting but I get a tad irritated by the Tory mantra that says Hard Workers are Tories. That somehow a work ethic is a Tory ethic. It isn't. That somehow the wealthy have achieved through their  hard work. That scrounging is a socialist thing, it isnt. I have no idea who those twats at capital world market city investment company that swindled those Gurkha's voted for but I'm pretty sure it won't be Corbyn next time. This idea that immigrants have come to scroung is bollocks as well, all those i see are grafting away in all kinds of shit jobs. I'm all for sharing with loved ones but why does it have to stop there? Where is the love for fellow countrymen? All mankind? Sharing is the most naturl Human trait of all, its how we have survived and it is greed that will destroy us. One way is the tearing up of green belt pastures instead of spending a little more of this precious capital we hold so dear on renovating brown belt land.
Good to hear from you though young fella mi lad.

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