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Dock

Cyclone: My Story by Barry McGuigan

Nineteen million. The kind of viewing figure that is reserved for shows like Morecombe & Wise Christmas shows or some big soap opera saga. The nineteen million I refer to were the number of people that tuned in to watch Barry McGuigan fight Eusebio Pedroza for the WBA Featherweight Championship of the World at Loftus Road football ground in 1985. With regard to the British public that kind of viewing figure and interest in boxing has waned over the years. I’m prepared to be proved wrong but I personally believe that the pay-per-view/Las Vegas dominated/daft O’ clock coverage over the last twenty years has slowly eroded a healthy following of boxing in Britain.

Anyway enough of me and my flummery, back to the book. This is the first of the reads I was given for Crimble. A book by Barry McGuigan was, for me, a classy proposition. Just as when Martin O’ Neill talks about football or John Francombe talks about horse racing, when McGuigan talks about boxing it’s time to shut up and listen. He knows his sport inside out and is knowledgeable about technique and what it takes to make the grade at the top level at the various fighting weights. He takes the reader through his upbringing in Co. Monaghan and the competitive world of amateur boxing he was successful in from county and then on to to Commonwealth and Olympic level before turning professional.

There are some great round-for-round summaries of fights he was involved in and anecdotes about the business side of boxing. The backend of the book is a really positive run through how he has thrown himself into advocacy for boxers and the sport and as a consultant on various boxing films. Most notably in ‘The Boxer’ in which he trained Daniel Day Lewis (who by McGuigan’s own reckoning was a bit handy in the ring and floored some quite capable lads in sparring). He has also gained his ABA coaching stripes as well as opening his own boxing academies around the UK. In the book there are many highs and lows polarized by the famous Pedroza fight and the death of his close brother, training partner, and best friend Dermot. To sum up this is a positive and inspiring read (albeit a short one at approx. 300 pages) by one of the best sportsmen, boxers, articulate spokesmen that this corner of the world has ever produced. Top book by a top man.

Plastic Man

Imagine my disappointment on discovering that this post was about Mr McGuigan's boxing career, rather than his involvement in the development of bag-free vacuum cleaning technology.

A good review anyway.
Dock

Plastic Man wrote:
Imagine my disappointment on discovering that this post was about Mr McGuigan's boxing career, rather than his involvement in the development of bag-free vacuum cleaning technology.

A good review anyway.


Ace.
bearing

Imagine my disappointment on discovering that this post was about Mr McGuigan's boxing career, rather than his involvement in the 'looking out of the window weather forecasting' that Dock so enjoys .

I shall read this.

With regards to your first paragraph highlighting the demise of boxing, I remember watching, with my folks Midweek Sports Special with Gary Newbon and Big Fight Live. It's a real shame that the greed of Sky spoiled a once popular British sport. I don't believe that the numbers of people taking part in boxing itself has diminished and I don't believe that if it was brought back to mainstream TV that it wouldn't be popular again. However we are where we are an I sometimes wish that Sky would disappear up it's on backside.
Plastic Man

Royal correspondent, Jennie Bond: Where was one when McGuigan fought Pedroza for the WBA Featherweight Championship in 1985?

PM: Second floor bar, Student Union, Aston University. Screaming my support for Mr McGuigan. As was a significant proportion of the British population.

There haven't been many occasions in modern life that had virtually unanimous unified support across Britain as that fight did.
Dock

bearing wrote:
Imagine my disappointment on discovering that this post was about Mr McGuigan's boxing career, rather than his involvement in the 'looking out of the window weather forecasting' that Dock so enjoys .

I shall read this.

With regards to your first paragraph highlighting the demise of boxing, I remember watching, with my folks Midweek Sports Special with Gary Newbon and Big Fight Live. It's a real shame that the greed of Sky spoiled a once popular British sport. I don't believe that the numbers of people taking part in boxing itself has diminished and I don't believe that if it was brought back to mainstream TV that it wouldn't be popular again. However we are where we are an I sometimes wish that Sky would disappear up it's on backside.


I agree about people still having an interest in boxing B. I know personally in Leeds the bouts that are staged at the Irish Centre still pull good crowds. BM promotes amateur boxing for kids as really safe re: head gear and gloves, and its a great discipline builder. I'm going to steer (not push) Joseph Dock towards Judo or boxing as its a solo sport because as in life, people can let you down so the less he has to rely on team mates for anything the better.
Dock

Plastic Man wrote:
Royal correspondent, Jennie Bond: Where was one when McGuigan fought Pedroza for the WBA Featherweight Championship in 1985?

PM: Second floor bar, Student Union, Aston University. Screaming my support for Mr McGuigan. As was a significant proportion of the British population.

There haven't been many occasions in modern life that had virtually unanimous unified support across Britain as that fight did.


Great recollection PM. Has Jennie got the ok off you to publish your biography yet? Or does it need Home Office clearance?
Late Doors

The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?
Dock

Late Doors wrote:
The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?


You could say that, apart from the fact somebody didn't put a sun roof in the back of McGuigan's head with a high velocity bullet. but I get your drift like.
bearing

Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?


You could say that, apart from the fact somebody didn't put a sun roof in the back of McGuigan's head with a high velocity bullet. but I get your drift like.


Ahh but I'm sure it will mention the time he was given a gun to protect him from the IRA.

Does it go into the fight against Little Ali at all?
Dock

bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?


You could say that, apart from the fact somebody didn't put a sun roof in the back of McGuigan's head with a high velocity bullet. but I get your drift like.


Ahh but I'm sure it will mention the time he was given a gun to protect him from the IRA.

Does it go into the fight against Little Ali at all?


It mentions both but the gun wasn't just to protect him from the Provo's. There were kidnap fears from paramilitaries on both sides. The Little Ali thing is documented and covered well by BM re: how it made him feel etc.
bearing

Dock wrote:
bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?


You could say that, apart from the fact somebody didn't put a sun roof in the back of McGuigan's head with a high velocity bullet. but I get your drift like.


Ahh but I'm sure it will mention the time he was given a gun to protect him from the IRA.

Does it go into the fight against Little Ali at all?


It mentions both but the gun wasn't just to protect him from the Provo's. there were kidnap fears from paramilitaries on both sides. The Little Ali thing is documented and covered well by BM re: how it made him feel etc.


They'd have been daft to kidnap him anyway, would have blown up in their daft faces.
Dock

bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
The Junction Pub, Marsh Huddersfield, good point PM. It was one of them nights where you knew where you were when it was on. A kennedy event?


You could say that, apart from the fact somebody didn't put a sun roof in the back of McGuigan's head with a high velocity bullet. but I get your drift like.


Ahh but I'm sure it will mention the time he was given a gun to protect him from the IRA.

Does it go into the fight against Little Ali at all?


It mentions both but the gun wasn't just to protect him from the Provo's. there were kidnap fears from paramilitaries on both sides. The Little Ali thing is documented and covered well by BM re: how it made him feel etc.


They'd have been daft to kidnap him anyway, would have blown up in their daft faces.


Exactly, and if they had ineptly handled it as badly as they did the Shergar kidnap then they would've looked like even bigger div's.

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