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Frazier Cranium

Cellino out

Just had a text telling me that the League have disqualified Cellino's ownership of the club... he has 14 days to appeal.
Heyho

What does that mean in English?

Implications - points deductions?
Forest

Till March next year when his tax conviction is spent and he can do what he likes.
Dock

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30276764
Dock

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.c...-interests-of-any-party-1-6981493
Dock

http://www.theguardian.com/footba...eeds-football-league-disqualified
Frazier Cranium

Away from all the harsh treatment we as a club get from the football authorities, the fact is that Cellino has been punished for wrongdoings and this matter wasn't ever going away.  The FL didn't want him here in the first place, none of this is a surprise except for the vague way of them doing things, again.
Frazier Cranium

I'm not prejudiced against Cellino, by the way, I think he was mugged by GFH and I think he has actually done some good at the club.
Cutsyke

I was apprehensive when he came given the record in Italy but I have to say I like the guy. He's the first one in a long time who's put money in and dare I say, not just taken money (lots of money) out.

It would be very interesting if those passing judgement had to let auditors examine their own books. Do you think we would uncover any tax avoidance schemes?

In all honesty, I don't understand how you can punish a man twice for a crime - if he is guilty in Italy. I don't understand how a ruling that disqualifies anyone from ownership of a football club because of a matter that has been dealt with in another country, the country where the alleged offense is said to have taken place, can have any legal basis.

Decent legal team could drag it out until march or the FL could review it on appeal and reduce any punishment in a bid to look like they are acting tough and save face.

It's a real shame they weren't more pro active when Bates, Harvey and GFH were fleecing the club.

Said he won't sell anyway. Fuck 'em, I like it like this, we're Leeds United.
Heyho

Amazes me how the FL can put so much effort into something like this yet sit on their hands regarding a convicted rapist.
fartcatcher

Harvey's mere presence at the FL makes me incandescent with rage. I'd be annoyed if he was filling the fucking vending machines let alone running the show.

As others have said above, Cellino has the right to appeal, and presumably has briefs smart enough to delay proceedings until March.
Grind

Harvey would be the douchebag tipping the vending machines over to get Yorkie bars for free.
bearing

Don't forget folks we're being ruled upon by the previously mentioned Harvey and also Karl Oyston! Hardly doyens of honesty...
fartcatcher

FL's 'fit and proper person' test is clearly bollocks. Just look all the current and past crooked owners right the way across the leagues.

I feel persecuted.
smiling badger

It does seem odd that a cunt like Harvey can determine who runs a club considering he was employed by one of the biggest crooks in the game for so many years. And at the club in question too..
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

All this while Carson Yeung languishes in jail and Abramovich's Chelsea top the table with money stolen in the 'heist of the century'

VAT on a boat bought in one foreign country and sent to another

I hope he fights them to the very bitter end and the Haigh dossier sinks Bates, GFH and Harvey
Dalek

Whilst the FL stance beggers belief in what is in the best interest of the Football League, and as much as I think Harvey is apprehensively waiting for the chickens to come home to roost, it has to be noted that Harvey did not participate in this vote as he declared a conflict of interest.

Cellino's legal team however do have the nous to ensure the process does indeed extend to the March 2015 date as the initial statement did not target the FL as a body, but rather that their lawyers had not done their work correctly.

If the appeal had been directed against the FL, they would have applied their rules to the letter and hidden behind the wording - as per previous experience.

However, by highlighting that the lawyers themselves may not have done the work correctly, this forces the FL legal team to revisit every aspect of their case in detail (which began when Cellino took over) to review any weaknesses or issues that could be used to overturn the decision.

This will take longer than the deadline on the issue being regarded as being spent.

Maybe it is time for the parties to come to the sensible solution; draw a line in the sand, both sides to recognise weaknesses and strengths in their arguments, but recognise that Cellino's ownership has begun to stabilise a big club, and that is to be welcomed.  

The alternative will only feed the lawyers and drag football matters back away from the game itself.

Who knows, maybe even the good of football and the loyal fans opinions may even be taken into consideration!
Frazier Cranium

SBC, the surprising 'word' about Bates though is that he wants Haigh out of jail. Surprised me anyway.

Harvey is clearly a snake but he hasn't done anything wrong in his FL role, as far as I'm aware, and he didnt want Cellino at Leeds in the first place.  The rumours about Red Bull, or more importantly here, Gentings Casinos, taking over, are significant because Harvey reportedly 'brought' Gentings to the negotiating table before or around the same time as Cellino.  

I'm not defending Harvey but the other clubs' scandals aren't relevant to what's happening here, much as they are clearly again cess pit operations.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I can't believe Harvey 'recusing' himself out of the vote and 'debate' (hoho!) neutralised his influence

Has he not been the guy who introduced this mysterious Malaysian syndicate?

Can we possibly believe him and his pal Bates won't be doing all this to lever Cellino out and get themselves back/earn commissions for the introduction/sale

Harvey was all in favour of this faceless Malaysian bid. This is Harvey who testified to Parliament he didn't know who owned Leeds when he was Chief Exec. Do you remember the web of lies and dodgy companies that 'owned' Leeds for the tax exile Bates?

And they are persecuting Cellino for some VAT on a boat between two foreign countries before he'd even heard about buying Leeds

I would actually like to crush Harvey's head in a vice
Frazier Cranium

Bates fell out with Harvey while he was still here.

i think the faceless bid you refer to is Gentings, not sure?
Grind

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/spo...-leeds-united-owner-2014120493502
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30338539

on the other hand feel free to bang on about Chinks and Jews

Do we honestly believe all these other chairman haven't been a bit sly when they made and spent their money?
Grind

Dock

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.c...e-standing-down-cellino-1-6998731
fartcatcher

Now why would you want to do this?

Quote:
Financier Andrew Umbers - one of the men who helped to arrange the sale of Leeds United by Ken Bates to Gulf Finance House in 2012 - has joined the board at Elland Road.
Dalek

Cellino has lost the appeal - surprise surprise!

Now banned from involvement in running the club until 10 April.
Heyho

I wonder if he could hand over the reigns to David Haigh?
Late Doors

he has enough reigns already. Well reins anyway and hopefully a strap or two hundred
fartcatcher

Does it mean he has to sell the club and then buy it back on April 10th then?

It would take a plastic surgeon to wipe the smile off Shaun Harvey's face right now.
Late Doors

If there was such a thing as Karma somebody would
fartcatcher

I'm confused. Does this mean he's not coming back on April 10th - or not coming back full stop.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31611980
Frazier Cranium

Til his appeal is heard, allegedly.  Personally think he'll be on his way, for obvious reasons ie more legal 'challenges'  to wade through, plus his appeal will fail.

Just my expectations, none of that InTheKnowShit
fartcatcher

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Til his appeal is heard, allegedly.  Personally think he'll be on his way, for obvious reasons ie more legal 'challenges'  to wade through, plus his appeal will fail.

Just my expectations, none of that InTheKnowShit


So he could sell his share in the club to his two sons on the board and keep it in the family?

Just thinking out loud!
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I think he's well bought in - house and kids in Yorkshire they are all Leeds mad and go to all the games. The only way he will ever get his money back is if he gets them into the Premiership which is a possiblity

He won't be going too far from Leeds United

By taking this action he shields Leeds from the possible points deductions and embargoes that the corrupt FL Harvey and Oysten and the rest can impose if he stays as President and fights them

By deploying very expensive legal action as he's promised against the FL he is challenging them to shit or get off the pot

If he goes ahead with this very expensive legal action and defeats them then the way is open to return,continue the investment and get after that massive Premiership pot of TV money

Of course all the divs on Twitter are now trashing him and think he's buggered off and reckon he's going to stick Leeds into admin

Theres no way he'd do that
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I think he's well bought in - house and kids in Yorkshire they are all Leeds mad and go to all the games. The only way he will ever get his money back is if he gets them into the Premiership which is a possiblity

He won't be going too far from Leeds United

By taking this action he shields Leeds from the possible points deductions and embargoes that the corrupt FL Harvey and Oysten and the rest can impose if he stays as President and fights them

By deploying very expensive legal action as he's promised against the FL he is challenging them to shit or get off the pot

If he goes ahead with this very expensive legal action and defeats them then the way is open to return,continue the investment and get after that massive Premiership pot of TV money

Of course all the divs on Twitter are now trashing him and think he's buggered off and reckon he's going to stick Leeds into admin

Theres no way he'd do that
Frazier Cranium

TBF your honour, I think there is chance he WILL bugger off, or even be buggered and jailed, but I don't disagree with your opinions on him.  I certainly don't think he's here to con anyone, I just think he is too abrasive to run an English football club.

My first thoughts on the news he 'won't be coming back' was respectful, I thought he his decision was so as to deflect any more uncalled-for punishment on the club.  But then I thought, it's because he will lose his appeal(s).

Good luck to him.  He isn't so rich as to put the club in admin without it hurting him too.
Cutsyke

I like your assessment of the situation Sir Bulldog. Currently cringing at those reaching out to Russel Crowe via Twitter.
Heyho

Not sure about this Russell Crowe thing myself. Caveat is to rename Billys Bar Walkabout and to star in a screen adaptation of one of OC's books.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Cutsyke wrote:
I like your assessment of the situation Sir Bulldog. Currently cringing at those reaching out to Russel Crowe via Twitter.


He's done a couple of Tweets and all of a sudden the MSM (who love to rock the boat at Leeds) are having it that he's buying the club

I've checked and his net worth is $75m - according to Forbes - which he has worked very hard for (and not inherited a big chunk like MC did)

No way will he want to piss upwards of half of that away buying and then running a club he would very quickly lose patience with
Cutsyke

Seen his net worth at various figures between $65m and $250m. Quite like the guy, loves his RL and blobbed the Oscars to go to St Helen's. Might have missed it but I don't recall anyone spotting him at Middlesbrough over the weekend even though he was in the north of England at the time.

I'm surprised how much what seems like such a non story has blown up. I think it's important to remember he didn't actually put it out there rather responded to a tweet from a fan essentially saying 'Come and get us.' If there is more to it than that none of the media outlets have detailed it.

Someone pointed out that he wouldn't respond to the initial Tweet if he wasn't interested. I once drew him in on Twitter about tattoos, he tweeted he thought they looked good on some people but couldn't see himself with one. We exchanged a few tweets before I suggested he get one of a NY Mexican bellboy with a phone bouncing off his head, at which point he blocked me. Infantile of me? Absolutely but the point is, I think Russell Crowe's human just like you and me will enter into an exchange as would any other person.

I have sent the lad who reached out to Crowe a list of famous Leeds fans and suggest he reach out to them if he's not busy. Maybe we can get a consortium going.

I do think Crowe's response was positive, linking to a video of what they did with the rugby club. And I'm not saying he isn't or wouldn't be up for buying into Leeds. I am saying there's no evidence to suggest he is a contemplating it at this stage and I put it all down to a slow news day. It has opened my eyes somewhat as to how powerful Twitter can be, if nothing else.

I'm still not sure what it is everyone hates so much about Cellino. We have improved since he got here and he's invested in the team. All  really care about is 3 points not who owns the club, it will never be me.
Late Doors

Im a bit behind things, what's happening? Why has Childs gone? this Crowe thing real? why do I keep hearing words like Red Bull and casino. I don't hate Cellino Cuts, I think he is ace and if people can't see what he has done for us following the Bates-GFH axis of death then I wonder just what they really want for us
Frazier Cranium

LD, you do know though that Cellino is no innocent philanthropist, don't you?  But I don't hate him either, he has tried to do well for the club but some of his efforts haven't worked and the club is still in a mess.

Right then, Matt Child has left because he has chosen to, apparently.  He wasn't expecting to be at the club long anyway, and it does seem a shame because he genuinely is a Leeds fan.

Russell Crowe - I think his interest and enthusiasm for the club are 100% genuine, but if he wants to buy Eleonora Sports out it seems he would need financial backing as he is not worth that much.  Alas, he has dealt with Kerry Packer before, yes?
smiling badger

The telling in how Cellino is concentrating on the future of our club will be interesting come the summer months when some of the bigger clubs will be sniffing around our decent young players that we have.
If he thinks of selling any of them then he will be no better than the likes of Bates in my book.
Wage caps do probably come into play and some of the yoof or more like their agents will be asking for a little more if bigger clubs come sniffing.
Its in his interest to try and keep the decent young guns that we produce.
Just gets to me that we have to sell anybody with talent like we have done for way too long now.
Late Doors

Yes i am aware off that Codge but which multi billionaire business man  is .

Yep its a big summer coming up. i will be gutted if any of our young uns go
fartcatcher

Thompson gone!

fuck me - i thought he was doing a decent job. Particularly getting Sharp's and Murphy's mojos back.

My man on the terraces tells me it's to do with the financial implications of picking Antenucci.

Smacks of MC interference.
smiling badger

Couldnt really happen at any other club than Leeds United could it?
A guy scoring goals but told not to use him because of him getting an extension on his contract for doing so.
Thompson going is just another reason to wind up Redders and another step for him to say fuck this.
The LUFC Circus rolls on and on..

Red Bull being touted all about again.
fartcatcher

Had the dubious pleasure of watching the match today. Austin unlucky to be sent off but he'd been shit anyway. So was Morison.

A few heads went down second half. I fear the rest of the season may be a bit of a damp squid. Well, on the pitch at least.
Frazier Cranium

How many fecking dry squids do you know of?
fartcatcher

Frazier Cranium wrote:
How many fecking dry squids do you know of?


I just think 'damp squid' is a bit more graphic than 'damp squib' ;>)

What is a squib anyway. Is it some sort of pigeon?
Dalek

A squib is a small explosive item or firework.  Hence, a damp squib will not explode (and provide entertainment).

A squab is a young pigeon.

A squid is a cephalopod with eight arms.

A squad is a group of people.

- Maybe earlier this season we had a damp squad at times!  
Frazier Cranium

8 arms my arse
Dalek

8 arms - and 2 tentacles.  

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Frazier Cranium

I was only saying that my arse has 8 arms, God put your handbag down!!!



I retract my sarcasm and apologise profusely
Dalek

FC,  Handbag not even picked up - just wanted an excuse to post squid emoticons!!    
Frazier Cranium

fartcatcher

we could be on squid row pretty soon.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Oh Massimo! Why you have to be so crazy and trigger 'happy?
bearing

Late Doors wrote:
Im a bit behind things, what's happening? Why has Childs gone? this Crowe thing real? why do I keep hearing words like Red Bull and casino. I don't hate Cellino Cuts, I think he is ace and if people can't see what he has done for us following the Bates-GFH axis of death then I wonder just what they really want for us


I too think his heart is in the right place but he's an absolute loon and not at all suitable for stabilising the club long term.
fartcatcher

bearing wrote:
Late Doors wrote:
Im a bit behind things, what's happening? Why has Childs gone? this Crowe thing real? why do I keep hearing words like Red Bull and casino. I don't hate Cellino Cuts, I think he is ace and if people can't see what he has done for us following the Bates-GFH axis of death then I wonder just what they really want for us


I too think his heart is in the right place but he's an absolute loon and not at all suitable for stabilising the club long term.


agree - heart in right place but brain isn't.
fartcatcher

Riding on the crest of a slump now. I suspect Redfearn will depart at the end of the season one way ot the other.
Not the greatest coach or manager, but deserves more support than he's received.

MOT
Grind

* Attempts to retract scrotum. *
Late Doors

Mad mental mayhem. Not loving it. I've changed mi mind, the man is a fucking dangerous lunatic and the FL is right. He isn't fit n proper. Hats off to you that always knew it. Just hope he's got some smart exit strategy lined up that doesn't leave us in the shit.

Lets hope for Red Bull to come in, bring in big Sam  to do a "wilko"  bobs your uncle, i never liked the name Elland road anyway. i mean it goes nowhere near Elland

I genuinely thought he was genuine and on a mission to take us back into the premier and maybe onwards from that. Yes sure it was egotistical but so what. He made all the right noises, cleared the deadwood players and seemed to be learning from his mistakes. Maybe the FL have destroyed his resolve? Maybe he is guilty of more than simple tax evasion. Maybe their clear resolve not to have him in their gang has made him realise he has no future here. This business with Thompson has done it for me. I recognise he may have done something very wrong and any statements could prejudice proceedings but the lack of communication is positively third world banana republic.

And what about Redders ?

Dunno what game he and the pundits were watching last night but we were utterly devoid of any attacking prowess. Knew it as soon as i saw the line up. If Redders thinks Billy Sharp is the man to spearhead a 451 he is a buffoon. Putting Antenucci on was an even worse move. Nice fella, great at his proper job but has the tactical guile and game reading nowse of a bingo player, fucking clueless. Listening to his RL interview with Popey after i could not believe what i was hearing. Norwich were alright but to hear him talk you'd think they were Real Madrid. His constant reference to his hard working players who matched a premier bound team suggested a man purely intent on protecting his own reputation in readiness for an imminent move away. It was so far off the truth of the game. Norwich were allowed to stroke it around and could move forward with confidence knowing we were unable to hit them with counter attacks. The blatantly obvious move was to put Morrison (think he was on teh bench, if not cancel that ) on to play in the middle with Billy. He could have taken Sam off or even bolder Berardi and gone three at the back. Both were having decent games but putting Antenucci on actually made us less potent. What an end to the season, the two saviours of our club have both panned out to be completely deluded in their own way, hanging on to some self denial belief they have been mistreated.

The players have been good in the main, can't fault the effort and application but the set up, tactics, selection, subs and club spirit have let them down. None of that is their fault.
fartcatcher

I fear the worst next season. Can't think of any cause for optimism.
fartcatcher

oo-er.

It's all kicked off now. *

Collective teddy throwing exercise because they aren't being retained nest season?

Surprised at Silvestri though.

Club hasn't commented yet........

*or hasn't in some cases
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I hoped for the best with this guy. He made the right noises, bought a new squad of players and tried his passionate best. If he'd bought the ground back and appeared master of GFH and Bates I'd still support him to hell and back.

He hasn't done this and his treatment of Thompson and Redfearn have been unpleasant and destabilising

I now believe he is too fucking crazy to help the club

If we can find someone with deep pockets who is a lot more sane then I hope GFH and Cellino sell to them

However I think that unlikely

Leeds United will just be bled dry by the next set of carpetbaggers

A sad state of affairs
fartcatcher

The club seems to be trying to further undermine Redfern's position by backing the injury stories of Bellusci, Silvestri and Cani.

I'm sure Rotherham will be his last game in charge. He'll leave with his dignity intact and his reputation untarnished. I wish him well.
Frazier Cranium

With luck at least there will be a lot of purple on show at the match.
fartcatcher

Now in trouble with the FA for alleged illegal payments to agents in connection with McCormack's transfer.

I reckon Bates has a spy in the camp, trying to dig some dirt on Cellino, which he then sends to his old pal Shaun.
Frazier Cranium

This is the FA investigating him, it doesn't need those two c0unts involved.
fartcatcher

Press Conference

Jesus Fucking Christ!

we're all doooooooomed
Frazier Cranium

https://www.facebook.com/photo.ph...et=gm.1620123974872594&type=1
Frazier Cranium

Just an embarrassing photo of Cellino doing that grossly undermining thing he's accused Redfearn of, the Leeds 'salute'.

Reg doesn't seem to be letting me post a photo properly like.
fartcatcher

didn't see that one coming.

10th next season?

aim low, avoid disappointment
Heyho

Just had to wiki him. I shall give him a chance.

Now lets see what backing he gets regards players

And with a name like Uwe we just needs Sheeps to give his opinion
Dock

Heyho wrote:
Just had to wiki him. I shall give him a chance.

Now lets see what backing he gets regards players

And with a name like Uwe we just needs Sheeps to give his opinion


LEEDS UNITED IN YET ANOTHER NEW MANAGER SHOCKER!

FANS STILL BELIEVE IN CLUB AND PAY TO WATCH A TEAM CLEARLY GOING NOWHERE WHICH IS EVEN MORE OF A SHOCKER!

The whole things completely fucked. It really is!
Cutsyke

I don't think Rosler is a bad appointment but what's changed really? Has the Italian changed his ways? One wag tweeted that an appointment this early is really just a summer job. I thought Cellino might be a good fit for the club in an us against the world type way but he's too mad even for us. I know they call him The King of Corn but I reckon he must have inherited his money. I haven't looked it up mind. Undermined Redfearn, accused him of all kinds of nonsense and treated him worse than a dog. Sad fact is, a few wins and the bulk of our supporters will shrug and get on board with it, until he turns on Rosler. The press conference was good, orderly and the right noises were made but you just know Cellino wants the limelight, the plaudits so the madness will return. It' just a matter of when. I wish I didn't care enough but I do. Leeds United are in my blood. Pathetic isn't it?
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I'll say this - many many moons ago I worked for 8 weeks for Pearson at the beginning of the O'Leary years - he's a smart cookie, an actual Leeds fan and has proven with Hull he can revolutionise a football club in the doldrums and get them into the top flight

Uwe Rosler is a far more experienced player and manager than Neil Redfearn

They're an improvement on the face of it than NR and Salerno

I'm optimistic they can improve things if Emperor Nero doesn't fiddle
Dock

Cutsyke wrote:
I don't think Rosler is a bad appointment but what's changed really? Has the Italian changed his ways? One wag tweeted that an appointment this early is really just a summer job. I thought Cellino might be a good fit for the club in an us against the world type way but he's too mad even for us. I know they call him The King of Corn but I reckon he must have inherited his money. I haven't looked it up mind. Undermined Redfearn, accused him of all kinds of nonsense and treated him worse than a dog. Sad fact is, a few wins and the bulk of our supporters will shrug and get on board with it, until he turns on Rosler. The press conference was good, orderly and the right noises were made but you just know Cellino wants the limelight, the plaudits so the madness will return. It' just a matter of when. I wish I didn't care enough but I do. Leeds United are in my blood. Pathetic isn't it?


LU isn't in your blood Cuts. I'd argue that what you feel is manufactured nostalgia. Those wonderful memories of going to matches etc are just that, memories. This is a different era. Keep your past memories of LU like I do, but ditch the current set up. The owner is a crank with no real money, the players are average, and the fans aren't really interested in competitive sport. They can't be for the simple fact that the money they pay doesn't go into benefitting the club but yet they keep on paying to go. The owners just takes and takes from the coffers as the previous ones have. The measure of LU fans insight into the current situation at Their own club can be seen in the comments sections of articles about United on the YEP website. Re this new manager, one Dickhead predicts promotion next season??????????? I know there are a lot of fans with their ear to the ground and are realistic about how things are, but what seems evident the more you read in these comments sections is a lot of LU fans have no grasp on what exactly is needed financially to be a top club, or have any grasp on how modern football is run and why people buy into clubs. Some fans STILL defend the Italian owner?????? I can't get my head around where they are coming from. I really can't. They must be offering free logic lobotomy operations with every season ticket bought or summat. All that 'On and On' and 'MOT' bollocks is just people not recognising that Leeds United is completely fucked? On and on where? C'mon divs, on and on where? I'm dying to know. Where are you all marching together to? Enlighten me.

Question for the day: Why do you still follow a club who's owners have continually shown no desire or financial support towards making LU a competitive team?
Heyho

Dock - you don't get it do you. That passion about a club never leaves you once its there. I am sure even the dog botherers have a few fans that think the same about their club.

My old man was born about a mile away from Elland Road and he still lives about a mile away some 76 years later. In that time he spent some 20 years at the club, and then the bastards sacked him. Only time I ever saw my old man cry. The papers were on at him to tell all, spill the beans on the Revie years. He wouldn't do it and still won't Why - because he is still loyal to that club. I've told him to talk, I mean if it did happen it would have been him carrying that briefcase of cash!!! He has never even told me.

It's called loyalty and passion Doc. It is in yer blood just like Cuts says.
Dock

Heyho wrote:
Dock - you don't get it do you. That passion about a club never leaves you once its there. I am sure even the dog botherers have a few fans that think the same about their club.

My old man was born about a mile away from Elland Road and he still lives about a mile away some 76 years later. In that time he spent some 20 years at the club, and then the bastards sacked him. Only time I ever saw my old man cry. The papers were on at him to tell all, spill the beans on the Revie years. He wouldn't do it and still won't Why - because he is still loyal to that club. I've told him to talk, I mean if it did happen it would have been him carrying that briefcase of cash!!! He has never even told me.

It's called loyalty and passion Doc. It is in yer blood just like Cuts says.


Surely though loyalty is earned? And what have LU given back to fans in return for that loyalty in the last ten years? In the final analysis its fundamentalism....... and Codger is the Bin Laden of Elland Road. You're all crackers if you ask me......I know you wont!
Cutsyke

Yeah people who have dealt with him say Pearson is very professional. The press conference was much more orderly and sane even. Rosler I'd agree is better candidate for the job but that doesn't excuse the way Redfearn has been treated. I'm not optimistic because none of this is really about Redfearn, Rosler or Pearson, is it?

In my case I'd argue that it's not nostalgia. I've missed out on nearly all the good times through a mixture of age and living abroad. It's not quite civic pride but it's probably along those lines.
smiling badger

Guess we are a little crackers to go on following/supprting a club that gives fuck all back but what club this day and age gives anything back apart from success?
Think that ive said before that the current situation at Leeds bores the fook out of me, ie an egotistic owner who is as nutty as a box of frogs on crack.
We endured Bates for years and if ever there was a time to pack it all in then it would have been then.
Like others have said, its in ya blood..

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