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Nyles O Cranium

Birmingham pubs

Not a fishy tale yet but I thought I'd share this blatant cadge for info that I've asked on Facebook about.

Pubs in Birmingham area, 1980s.  I'm trying to get clearer picture in mi hid about certain ones.  Like The Crown which is still there, in B'ham city centre.
Plastic Man

I'm very familiar with many of the pubs in Birmingham city centre of that era.

Do you mean the Crown on Corporation Street, very close to the law courts?

I only went in there a couple of times. Nothing remarkable. A bit tired and an old man's pub, if I remember rightly.

May have had a bit of a reputation for its clientele, though its location may have influenced that.
Nyles O Cranium

Same as I've sent you on Fb, Bearing, if you've received it might be a different matter of course

Boogies Nightclub is prominent in the story too, and yes The Crown was as well, moreso in fact.

The Australian Bar (1985) scene of some serious violence before the B'ham Leeds game, apparently.

The Crown in Brum city centre. The Old Royal, and The Fox, and Craven Arms and The Cabin, Old Contemptibles, Edmund St, B'ham c c . The Grapes, too. Custard House, Stechford, and the Boradway, same area.

The Mackadown.

The Mason Arms, Solihull.

The Watering Hole, Coventry Rd. (near St Andrew's stadium I think)

The Horsetrader (Smallbrook)

49'ers - St Martin's Circus, B'ham.
Nyles O Cranium

I think that's the right road for The Crown, it's still there, I saw it a few months back. It's not far from the train station.
fartcatcher

Nyles O Cranium wrote:
Same as I've sent you on Fb, Bearing, if you've received it might be a different matter of course

Boogies Nightclub is prominent in the story too, and yes The Crown was as well, moreso in fact.

The Australian Bar (1985) scene of some serious violence before the B'ham Leeds game, apparently.

The Crown in Brum city centre. The Old Royal, and The Fox, and Craven Arms and The Cabin, Old Contemptibles, Edmund St, B'ham c c . The Grapes, too. Custard House, Stechford, and the Boradway, same area.

The Mackadown.

The Mason Arms, Solihull.

The Watering Hole, Coventry Rd. (near St Andrew's stadium I think)

The Horsetrader (Smallbrook)

49'ers - St Martin's Circus, B'ham.


This is testing the Read Only Memory a bit.

A lot of the pubs you mention (eg Old Contemtibles, Old Royal) are just N of the city centre. Now in the (relatively) trendy jewellery quarter. In the 80s they were traditional boozers. Full of office workers at lunchtime, but as PM says, mainly old gimmers in the evening.

As well as the Crown, there is the Old Crown in Deritend. Lovely (and relatively safe) old pub on the route from the station to the ground.

Mackadown was in Kitts Green. Heart of BCFC territory. Reputation for being rough. I never went in there - knocked down in the 90s i think.

Watering Hole - very close to the ground, bit rough - now a traffic island.

Horsetrader - basement bar I think - reputation for serving under age drinkers. Gone now.

The Fox - is and always has been a gay bar. Not that I've ever been in there, you understand ;>)

Australian Bar - tiny place, couldn't have a decent fight in there.

The Swan in Yardley claimed to be the largest pub in the world and was the favourite haunt for BCFC fans and players. Eventually closed down and demolished due to it's reputation.

When Saunders was manager he had a lot of trouble with Robert Hopkins, Noel Blake, Mark Dennis and Tony Coton, who used to drink in there and get into a lot of fights.
One of them (can't remember which) impregnated Ron's daughter and was rapidly transferred out.

Masons Arms - in Solihull. You get a better class of Brummie there. Had our work Christmas meal in there a few years ago.
Grind

I used to stagger to and from The Lazy Fox in Harborne and The Selly Oak Tavern (now called something else?) on The Bristol Road in Smelly Oak.

* Bloody student. *

** Not the information you're looking for, obviously. **

*** Oooh, and The Dry Dock in Tipton. Ace. ***
Frazier Cranium

Thanks chaps.  There are more to come
Nyles O Cranium

Just remembered an important one too, though shut now.  The Tilt & Hammer.  Also The Rainbow.  Any memories folks?
fartcatcher

Rainbow was just down the road from the Old Crown. Used to see have top bands in the early 80s. Dexy's, UB40, The Beat etc.

Very 'basic' inside.
Frazier Cranium

Drugs war setting too!

Thanks, this has all been a great help.
Frazier Cranium

Mornin' all, this book wot I co-writ, is out in the summer and is showing on Amazon already.  Originally to be called Operation Red Card, the title is now Hunting The Hooligans.

There's very little about Leeds United in it, though the riot of 1985 is a significant incident (which I didn't enjoy writing, for obvious reasons).
Frazier Cranium

My mysterious PM to some of you is to ask for your details so as to officially acknowledge you

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