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Berlin

Anyone been?
Grind

Yep, but I spent most of it semi-unconscious.

Seemed a fun place though.
lolwarlol

Next!
Grind

PL2 wrote:
Next!


It was a long time ago - just after the fall of the wall.

Checkpoint Charlie was an interesting trip and the stark differences between the East and West were obvious for all to see.

There was a rebuilt bombed church that was quite neat too.

Better?
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

i hope it takes your breath away
Grind

Sir Bulldog Craggwood wrote:
i hope it takes your breath away


grunt

Yeah loads of people have been.
Grind

grunt wrote:
Yeah loads of people have been.


Lots of Russians and Americans, for sure.
grunt

In berlin by the wall
You were five foot ten inches tall
It was very nice
Candlelight and dubonnet on ice
lebowski

I worked there a couple of years ago for a few weeks.

Even though I was working, I loved the place and still want to go back and explore properly.

The Office I was working in was part of the Sony Centre, which is right next to Potsdamer Platz - a Modern square that was built on the no-mans land between East and West. Look out for a modern version of NewYorks flat-iron building there.

Inside the Sony Centre there are Cinemas, Restaurants and if you look up, the roof is amazing.

Just next door is a restaurant called Vapiano where chefs prepare your pasta dish to order in front of you, its lovely inexpensive food.

Not far away you have the Parliament buildings (I think it is called the Reichstag), the holocaust memorial that looks like a maze made out of hundreds of comcrete blocks ( I have an embarassing story to tell about that place ) a huge park called the Tiergarten, The Brandenburg Gate at the top of a street called 'Unter Den Linden' (Under the Linden Trees) a tree lined avenue with shops and bars on either side, apparently at the fall of the Third Reich there was  not a twig left to burn there.

I could go on and on, but it is a pretty cool place with a massive amount of choice for eating, drinking, shopping and sightseeing. Most people speak English and it felt a very safe City to walk around.

They have an extensive metro system (The U bahn) and everywhere they have tried to preserve the Historical buildings even going so far as to combine bombed out buildings with new construction. Check out the old church near to the Zoo for an excellent example of that.

There is a huge post office tower type building and also a hot air balloon you can go on, right in the middle of the city, sponsored by the newspaper 'Die Welt'.

Berlin is also very flat and lots of people cycle everywhere and there are lots of cycle paths right through the City.

Generally speaking the west of the city is still more affluent than the East.

I could go on, but I only really scratched the surface, I found Berliners to be pretty friendly, certainly not tourist fatigued, and all in all I would love to go back again and see the rest.
lolwarlol

Brilliant, thanks Leb.
lolwarlol

I want to see some German art whilst there and also visit Wannsee.
Plastic Man

PL2 wrote:
I want to see some German art whilst there and also visit Wannsee.


Let me get this straight... you wannsee some German art and you wannsee Wannsee?
lolwarlol



I'll see if i cant pick up some grammar stuff for you whilst there PM
Plastic Man

PL2 wrote:


I'll see if i cant pick up some grammar stuff for you whilst there PM


Good man.

I wonder if you will bump into Obergruppenführer Butts on one his frequent visits to our HQ in the Fatherland?
lolwarlol

Possibly at spell checkpoint Charlie.
Tank Girl

mate of mine is over there now and she says its snowing an freezing cold.
i hadnt really thought about this when  i booked
Butts

I went in 2005 and vowed to go back but haven't as yet there was so much to do. I still have the card for this restaurant in my wallet so it might be worth a try although I can't remember too much about it  

Florian
Address: Grolmanstr. 52, Western Downtown, Berlin
Phone: 030/313-9184
lolwarlol

Ooh! We should check it out.
Butts

PL2 wrote:
Ooh! We should check it out.


It might be shit, I'd hate to ruin your trip. I remember eating in Berlin they bring salad separately as a starter. We were waiting ages for the rest of it to arrive and it didn't until we'd eaten the lettuce.
Tank Girl

why have you kept that card butts?
for 5 years
Butts

I'm not sure, it's always been there. It's a miracle I haven't lost the wallet in that time and it's beginning to fall apart now. I honestly can't remember a great deal about the place. Like Leb alludes to in his post my main memory of Berlin is making a completely drunken tit of myself in and amongst the stone slabs of the Holocaust memorial. Seems a long time ago and I remember the Berliners being unfailingly tolerant, helpful and polite.
Tank Girl

the mind boggles as to what could possibly have gone on among those slabs?
Butts

I don't know the details of Leb's misdemeanours, I shouldn't have speculated. I was just hopelessly pissed on whatever I could lay my hands on and didn't wait to find a toilet.
lolwarlol

How did you get out alive?

"never mind all that, i need the toilet"
Butts

When you see it, you'll see what I mean, it's an open air space that you can walk round.

KaDeWe, by the way, is the best department store I've ever been in with a wonderful oyster bar on the top floor, if that's your thing.
Plastic Man

Butts wrote:
I went in 2005 and vowed to go back but haven't as yet there was so much to do. I still have the card for this restaurant in my wallet so it might be worth a try although I can't remember too much about it  

Florian
Address: Grolmanstr. 52, Western Downtown, Berlin
Phone: 030/313-9184


So how come you've been putting in all these expense claims for trips to Berlin and meals at Florian?

You're making the Grammar Gestapo look like an amateur version of the House of Commons.
bearing

Have a good trip guys, post when you get there so we know you're safe.
lolwarlol

Thank you. I believe we are taking the lap top so we should be ok for daily reports, maybe even photos.
Seal

Why aren't you busy packing?  
lolwarlol

Seal wrote:
Why aren't you busy packing?  


TG is.
lolwarlol

bearing

Clacker wrote:
When do you fly?


Must have gone, very rude not to respond to you though Clacks.

Fuck 'em
bearing

Clacker wrote:
When do you fly?


Must have gone, very rude not to respond to you though Clacks.

Fuck 'em
bearing

Clacker wrote:
Expected a report of some sort by now.


Perhaps they're dead.
bearing

Clacker wrote:
bearing wrote:
Perhaps they're dead.


Maybe.

If so, who wants TG's occasional table?


Grind I reckon
bearing

I'll have them, plus the PS3 if I may.

Would you like his lighters?
Plastic Man

Can I have his high-resolution telescope please.

The one he bought to "look at the stars".


Yeah, right. The only person who seems to have fallen for that chestnut was Ma'am.
bearing

Plastic Man wrote:
Can I have his high-resolution telescope please.

The one he bought to "look at the stars".


Yeah, right. The only person who seems to have fallen for that chestnut was Ma'am.


It's yours mate.
bearing

Clacker wrote:
Who wants his guitar?


I'll have that too
Late Doors

I think Clacker should have his Leeds Scarfe
Fin

Can i have his ace bottle please?
bearing

Where are we burying him?
Grind

bearing wrote:
Clacker wrote:
bearing wrote:
Perhaps they're dead.


Maybe.

If so, who wants TG's occasional table?


Grind I reckon


Only occasionally though.  

I'll take his PL trophy back though.  
bearing

Clacker wrote:
bearing wrote:
Where are we burying him?


Stamford Bridge?

Its what he wouldve wanted.


Sorted, I'll book it.

He'll be turning in his grave at this news.
Grind

bearing wrote:
Clacker wrote:
bearing wrote:
Where are we burying him?


Stamford Bridge?

Its what he wouldve wanted.


Sorted, I'll book it.

He'll be turning in his grave at this news.


Just after John Terry's done a sliding tackle from behind.

* Note to self: don't go on holiday. Ever. *
bearing

Is Terry in to necrophilia as well?

Dirty bastard!
bearing

Thought they were takin' the laptop...
Plastic Man

They might not have got the interweb in Berlin yet.
bearing

Plastic Man wrote:
They might not have got the interweb in Berlin yet.


Perhaps they just don't care...
lolwarlol

It is the respect that has made me cry the most.

Sorry we didn't check in from Berlin. Time just ran away. I'll be writing up a report over the next couple of days.
bearing

PL2 wrote:
It is the respect that has made me cry the most.

Sorry we didn't check in from Berlin. Time just ran away. I'll be writing up a report over the next couple of days.


Ahh don't worry, I'm a bit miffed I'll not be getting the PS3 or the guitar though.

Glad you had a great time
lolwarlol

We’d been checking the weather reports before we left but nothing really prepared me for what was going on until we were flying over Germany and the fields were covered in ice! When we stepped off the plane it was all too clear just how cold it really was.  We made our way through the comparatively small airport. The lift presented an initial problem for me. For some reason people speaking in German has always made me really laugh.  Trapped in in the lift I held on to myself tightly in what seemed like five years it was all over and I was out of the lift. I think that very experience has cured me of this ridiculous affliction.

The first thing we purchased were our Berlin City Tour Cards. For €33.90 this little gem gets you travel on all buses, trams and trains in Berlin. It is a must have for any traveller. You validate it once by sticking it in a machine on a bus and that is that. Now you need only flash it to the bus driver (who pays no attention to you) as you board the bus. Tams and trains have no turnstiles. Not once did we see a ticket inspector. This adds to my theory that German people, as a whole, are honest and proud of their wonderful city.
The ticket.




We got a cab from the airport to the hotel. The cab, like all the others was a brand new Mercedes. Clean and in tip top condition it glid down Berlins impressive roads. In all the time we were there we saw one traffic jam and that took 5 minutes to clear. The roads are so wide (like the pavements) and driving round Berlin looks like a pleasure not the skin crawling nightmare that London driving looks to be.  
Hotel Website This hotel is fantastic. It was way cheaper than all the others we looked at. Nothing was wrong with it. Perfectly comfortable its location was only beaten by the fantastic friendly staff that worked there. When we arrived we soon realised they had put us in a non-smoking room, we knew that had smoking rooms. With no fuss or commotion we were transferred to a bigger smoking room. I cannot recommend this hotel enough. If anyone I liked was going to Berlin I would strongly suggest they stayed here.
Having unpacked we went for a stroll. The hotel does have a restaurant but we decided to go out, see a bit of the town. It will come as no surprise to hear that German streets spotlessly clean. Germans are honest and proud of their wonderful city. I have sat on a bus in London and seen more litter on that bus than I saw in the entire time I was in Germany.  Outside the shops on the road we were staying (TG assures me that this road was Germany’s version of Bond Street) on the massively wide pavement were little closed kiosks. Each shop had some of their wares in them. One contained gloves that the shop wanted €200.00 for. It was in no danger of being smashed. Germans, honest and proud of their wonderful city.  One kiosk was filled with stuff about Jesus which was odd because I couldn’t see a church nearby.
Sadly I have not made notes on dates, times or even what we ate so what follows is some random passages of places we went to and our impressions of them.

We ate here on the first night. It serves traditional German food. It seemed to have a million beers behind the bar. All dark wood and a few weird things on the walls from old advertising posters to what looked to be a wonderful wooden frame surrounding a picture of the Kaiser. The whole place looks like it could have been there 150 years.  Initially when we went into the place it was fairly busy (always a good sign) As we walked through most of them seemed to be German (another good sign), I knew this because I heard them talking (no laughing from me, Cured!), we found a table and sat down. Quite soon many had left (nothing to do with us) it appeared that some of the Berliners may go there after work for a drink. TG and I shared the place now with a couple of German couples and this mob at the other end of the bar. The mob seemed to be led by a wanker. They were English. My age probably a bit older. In Berlin on business. Never mind, we ordered  our food. I had two different types of sausage, three pork  steaks (chops) fried potato. TG had Nuremberg  sausages and sauerkraut. I had looked at what the restaurant called its speciality. Pork Knuckle. Not being too sure and being to hungry I didn’t want to gamble. We had no sooner started than the mob made their way to the table next to ours. Empty fucking restaurant and they chose that table. This had them nudging our table as they all had to walk over and sort out their seating arrangements, grown ,men working out who sits next  to who. I fucking ask you?!  Once they had worked out who was sitting next to who they then had to all put their beers in the right place then nudge our table again as they took it in turns to push passed for the toilet. Wanker looks at the menu and shouts to the entire restaurant that the knuckle is awful. As is the way with unfunny wankers, if no one laughs the first time just keep repeating it but get louder each time. So every time one of them came back from the toilet he’d make sure they heard it. Then fuck me gently if he didn’t stop us from eating to tell us! All the staff in this place spoke English they must have known what he was saying. I was fairly ashamed to be associated with him  even if it was that we both come from the same country. He then wanted to know what we were eating. He kept on and on about it all being pork and sausages and how disgusting the knuckle was. Sort of bloke that would go to France and scream from the rafters what we all know, that some people eat snails. Tosser.  Anyway, we liked our meal and we went.
Couple of things we noticed about the restaurants. They mainly have older women as waitresses and they seem to really prefer cash. Yes they all serve loads of pork too. This is in places that serve traditional German food though. Berliners themselves do not eat this on a daily basis. They have all the same restaurants we do, Italian, French, Japanese and many more.

Another restaurant we visited was Maximilian's. Again, this is traditional German food. This was packed out with the nearby office workers all getting into the daily special that was only €6.00! We went for this meal described as meat loaf and bread covered in melted Camembert. It turned up. Each portion looked as big as my thigh. I loved it but it was way too much for TG. I really thought she was going to be sick.  
The Holocaust memorial or to give it its proper, unflinching title, Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe. It is quite staggering. The effect these enormous slabs of concrete have on you. The whole thing is on a dip so that you walk down in to these ever increasing in height slabs. It gets dark in the middle and we were there on a crisp clear morning at about 10.am. I wonder if the way it works is the subtle way you walked into the darkness and how blinding the light was as you walked out. Underneath all that is a display of various things. So firstly there is a timeline of events with photos  and explanations. Other displays showed family photos taken of people all grouped together and then explanations of what happened to all of them. Then came a room with the written testaments of what they had gone through or were going through. One included a letter from a girl to someone, scared that she would not be shot as they were not shooting children at that point. She was scared she would not be shot as living was so awful. It is that sort of material that turns you into a washing machine that bleeds colours and emotions.  On the whole this wasn’t a hit you over the head and ‘aint the Germans cunts’ sort of thing. It was done very matter of factly. It feels like it is there not to lay blame but simply to educate and state the facts. The next place we went to, I have to admit, had a far bigger effect on me.

Checkpoint Charlie.
It is there in the middle of the road still. Just next to it is half a dozen souvenir shops. There is also the museum. This houses a load of information on the wall and the years that it was up. It has thousands of articles and photos and strange items all over the place including things used for escape. One chap made this flying machine in West Germany, flew over the border, picked up his brother and flew back. The machine sits next to a TV set that shows the video he made of the daring ‘rescue’.  There are suitcases in there used to carry people through, fake uniforms that people made to just walk through the border control. It covers every aspect of peoples lives and the players in the game. Ronald Reagan has his own section there and you get to see his hat, boots and chainsaw (don’t know, didn’t ask). It had quite an impact on me. The insanity of it all. This border went up overnight. There is a picture of a man who was working away for the night when the border went up he (for some reason) had his child with him and the photo shows him handing this child over to his wife, over a piece of barbed wire that is lying in the middle of the road the morning after. The hardest thing to come to terms with was the story of a child that fell in the river. Once that child was in the water it was doomed. Anyone jumping in to save the child would have been shot as someone trying to escape. Imagine the terror they had over people that you would consider that before jumping into a river and saving a drowning child. How present it was in your mind. The child did drown.

Wannsee.

As you may know, on Jan 20th 1942 selected members from various offices met at Wannsee to discuss ‘The Final Solution’.  The house is now home to a sort of educational place regarding the holocaust.  The 2001 HBO special, Conspiracy is all about the meeting. I have watched it again and again. I’m not celebrating what the Germans did but I have to tell you that this film is one of the most remarkable I have ever seen. Every single performance in it is astounding including that of Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich. Forget all you think about Branagh before you judge this. He is amazing in it. Now don’t go getting the wrong idea. I am not a Nazi fan but that whole period of history, particularly from the German side, has long been a fascination of mine. This house has the dubious honour of being the scene of the biggest turning point in the war. Heydrich and a couple of others already know going into it what the outcome is. This meeting is simply informing the various department heads and others in a way that at the same time tells them about it, who is in charge of it but also tries to make them feel they have agreed to it. It is a strange mix. I have been all over Bushy park, Hampton court and other places in London where I can say with certainty that I have stood where kings and Queens have but it is nothing like standing in that room at Wannsee and knowing you are standing in a place where the world radically changed forever. It wasn’t a thrill it was quite terrifying. The main thing is the beauty of the house is staggering. We know that these men sat about eating fine foods drinking wine in these sumptuous surroundings discussing so brutally the annihilation of millions of people. I don’t expect I will ever have such a heavy feeling in the core of my soul again.
Berlin in general.

As the cab drove us to our hotel on the first day, the cabbie was talking to us and he asked “You came to Berlin, in the winter, on holiday?” It may seem mad but it had its advantages. Firstly you pretty much get the town to yourself. Yes the pavement s are massive, the transport system so good (SO good) that you are not crushed but when you visit the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe or the permanent Dali exhibition you are not doing so with thousands of others. The 11 year old son of the guitarist of Streolab, who sat next to TG on the plane home said that Berlin was to be avoided in the summer (his dad lives there) as it was way too hot. So the recommendation is autumn through to spring would be a great time to visit.

The German people we met were all friendly and most had at least a spattering of English. TG did however provide directions to one German woman in German. Very impressive I must say. How the German didn’t know where to go I do not know because it is well easy to get about.

There was loads more about Berlin we loved I just cant remember it all for now. I am sure we will add to this as we remember.
sheeps

Good stuff mate.

We have been to Germany several times, visited Cologne, Dusseldorf, Achen, but my favourite was Bonn. As you say clean, tidy place and in our experience friendly helpfull people.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

sheeps wrote:
Achen, .



GUSENDHEIT!!!
Tank Girl

its was brilliant

things i noticed.

1. berlin ladies are sturdy, i felt almost slim there, also because...
2. no very skinny girls like in London
3. only saw 1 orange girl
4. people do not put their dogs on leads
5. curry wursts are yummee
6. PL said there were no single mums - i dont know how he knew this.
7. even the tiniest bit of German helps. I did an o level when i was at school, never spoken a word of it since but it was well useful



we went to a couple of markets, first of all we decided we did not want to go to a tourist one, so we decided to go to one a bus ride away. when we got there it was loads of stalls which were filled with what looked like the contents of skips dating from the 1970's.
you know when you see a box of cheap jewellery that has been in your nans house for about 30 years and is all single clip type earrings and tangled up necklaces.
it was like that.

we then went to a more touristy one at the tiergarten and it was at least laid out so you could see what they had. got a pair of slippers and a couple of bangles.

PL was very upset that they made him disembowel his Zippo on the way home.
bearing

Curry wurst hey.

*has idea for a range of crisps*
Tank Girl

oh yeah.
near where we were staying there was a kind of indoor shopping mall but not a posh one, half of it was empty and it had a Kaisers at the back. did you know the supermarkets in Berlin are called Kaisers
they have Lidls as well but NO TESCO's. how nice that was to be away from some of those brand names that thrust themselves into your face every 3 minutes.
there was starbucks  and other retailers like H&M of course and PL was amazed to see C&A there.


anyway, in this mall there was a little gallery where a local artist was selling pottery and some small paintings
we bought a pottery wild boar or Wildschwein.
it is ace
there will be pics at some point.
bearing

C&A are either a German or Dutch company, can't remember which.
bearing

TG, did you just say Brussels?
Tank Girl

i did then i retracted
lolwarlol

Wildschwein.


bearing

Tank Girl wrote:
i did then i retracted


Right, was it like tourettes?
Tank Girl

look at that wee BEAUTY
bearing

Tank Girl wrote:
look at that wee BEAUTY


That would look great on your 'coffee table'.
Tank Girl

is exactly where it is
lolwarlol

Saw some great art there, right up on the walls, larger than life.








Tank Girl

you can put a candle in it
lolwarlol

Walked passed this door in the cool part of Berlin.


bearing

PL2 wrote:
Walked passed this door in the cool part of Berlin.




What a mess, I bet those Berliners aren't proud of the City.
lolwarlol

Got to the hotel and saw this, i nearly swung for it, then i realised it was just model and not sheeps.


lolwarlol

bearing wrote:


What a mess, I bet those Berliners aren't proud of the City.


They were too cool to be proud of anything.
Tank Girl

mess??? MESS???

its beautiful
lolwarlol

Even the graffiti is cooler in Germany, this was just train station.


lolwarlol

more weird art, this was on the wall outside a cafe.


bearing

Tank Girl wrote:
mess??? MESS???

its beautiful


It's a mess, just 'cause it's in the cool part of Berlin doesn't make it beautiful.

It wouldn't be beautiful if it was your front door.
lolwarlol

Yes, it is a great big ball of stuff, of course it is.

lolwarlol

bearing wrote:
Tank Girl wrote:
mess??? MESS???

its beautiful


It's a mess, just 'cause it's in the cool part of Berlin doesn't make it beautiful.

It wouldn't be beautiful if it was your front door.


It would actually, but i dont think the neighbours would like it, i'd love it.
bearing

The other stuff looks good, but that door is just crap
lolwarlol

bearing wrote:
The other stuff looks good, but that door is just crap


I suppose what the picture do0esn't capture that every thing around that was spotlessly clean.
lolwarlol

Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe





Tank Girl

its quite overwhelming in there
grunt

PL2 wrote:
Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe







Crikey, that is a large and striking memorial. Is it simply dark blank walls all the way through?
Tank Girl

butts i can see why that happened
Tank Girl

yes blank slabs of concrete
whe n we arrived i looked at it from the exterior and though oh, its smaller than i thought it was going to be but when you step inside it and the ground slopes away and you are in almost like a maze, it is moving beyond words.
lolwarlol

Various places we visited.








The Market.





Those Kiosks





More art




It was cold




In the distance, down the river is two silver giants, this picture is fuzzy but you get the idea.



bearing

PL2 wrote:
bearing wrote:
The other stuff looks good, but that door is just crap


I suppose what the picture do0esn't capture that every thing around that was spotlessly clean.


Ahh, I see.
Forest

PL2 wrote:



It was cold







Jeez that looks cold, and I thought we had a cold winter in the UK this year
Tank Girl

it was -8 the day we arrived

warmed up to -2 by the last day.

it was fine - we had clothing.
but once you had been out and then back in, you didnt want to go back out again.
grunt

Nice use/creation of the word 'glid' btw.
toxic avenger

Cracking report, I've always fancied Berlin. I've been to Koln, Bremen and Frankfurt and I went to the Loveparade in Dortmund a few years ago. I do like Germany and I enjoy visiting their cities so I may head to Berlin for a long weekend later in the year.
lolwarlol

The other thing about Berlin i noticed was the sense of space, because the roads and pavements are so wide and most of the buildings seem to only go to one height, you get this enormous space, you're free, not like London where everything feels 2 foot away from you and a hundred miles above your head.

The buildings were great, most seem to be three or four story. Every shop is ground floor and the floors above are residential.
toxic avenger

PL2 wrote:
The other thing about Berlin i noticed was the sense of space, because the roads and pavements are so wide and most of the buildings seem to only go to one height, you get this enormous space, you're free, not like London where everything feels 2 foot away from you and a hundred miles above your head.

The buildings were great, most seem to be three or four story. Every shop is ground floor and the floors above are residential.


I one thing I noticed in Germany is the number of people riding bikes. Far more than in the UK. They ride on the pavement as well. I nearly got knocked over by some middle aged guy. In Bremen there were more people riding bikes than walking. A lot of sexy blonde frauen riding around on these big black old fashioned looking bikes. It actually looks really cool.

I also noticed a lot of middle aged men were wearing these fishing vests, y'know? Like a beige bodywarmer with loads of pockets. It must be some kind of fashion craze or something.
lolwarlol

We saw a few people on bikes, none on the pavement but nearly all on those old fashioned ones.
Forest

PL2 wrote:
We saw a few people on bikes, none on the pavement but nearly all on those old fashioned ones.


Amsterdam (I'm guessing this is the same for most of Holland) is the place for bikes, every bugger has one and they ride round in packs. Bikes seem to take precedence over pedestrians everywhere, I was nearly run over a couple of times, usually by families with kids sat on the front of the bike.
lolwarlol

Forest wrote:
PL2 wrote:
We saw a few people on bikes, none on the pavement but nearly all on those old fashioned ones.


Amsterdam (I'm guessing this is the same for most of Holland) is the place for bikes, every bugger has one and they ride round in packs. Bikes seem to take precedence over pedestrians everywhere, I was nearly run over a couple of times, usually by families with kids sat on the front of the bike.


Interesting link.

I believe when the Dutch play the Germans at football, sometimes the fans sing "Can we have our bikes back?". This goes back to the war, when Germany invaded Holland they confiscated loads of bikes.
lolwarlol

Clacker wrote:
Great reports on your trip PL and TG.

Did you let the wanker in the restaurant know that you thought he was a wanker?


No, it was our first night there. I didn't want to cause a scene either. We did the very British raised eyebrow and a couple of head shakes with mild tutting.
bearing

Kunnen we onze fietsen terug?
lolwarlol

bearing wrote:
Kunnen we onze fietsen terug?


Gesundheit!
Grind

Nice reportage - I may have to go back to Germany sometime soon - I often seem to get on better with Germans here than I do English expat types (who are usually gobby wankers here as well).

The last time I went to Germany was a totally blagged trip to Munich ostensibly to see one of my gas discharge tube manufacturers about some Molybdenum electrode problems (I'm guessing only Bearing might be even vaguely interested in this and, even then, not very) but it was really planned around my going to see Leeds play TSV 1860 Munich in a CL qualification game.

I think the game only cost about GBP6 to get in to and we even won. Sweet!

Much like TG, my German is based on an 'O' level taken many years before.

However, for reasons that are still unclear, I seemed to spend most of the trip speaking to the locals in French even though I could understand what they were saying to me in German. Very strange.

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