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Dock

BBC In Orwellian Biased Shite Journalism Not Shocker

I'm used to it now from the BBC. Safe beige news reporting often making a story out of something that isn't a story and dodging the important issues in case they upset someone in power. I try and avoid their TV news broadcasts but recently I seem to have been in the room when they've been on.

The Anti-Corbyn vibe is screaming out from them. They are finding it hard to disguise it. The scaremongering has been pathetic. I'm indifferent about Nigel Farage usually but during the last election he spoke of 'a metropolitan elite' in London who were out of touch with real people, and I wholly agree with him. It certainly applies to the Beeb. It's agenda-based nanny state news. So what if Corybn has different views to the other centre-safe parties? Isn't that what debate and democracy is supposed to embrace. It's at a point where I'm expecting them to go: "Jeremy Corbyn, bad man. Now go outside and play before you have your afternoon nap. Run along now". The BBC is a rigged game. They don't give us 'The News'. Just 'Some News' that they deem we can have. Knobends!

Couldn't decide if this was a subject for the entertainment section or the politics section so I stuck it in here n' that.
Frazier Cranium

I hear this 'BBC is biased' allegation a lot but weirdly it seems to be from all political sides.

I only listen to the BBC TV news at 6pm and maybe a couple of radio news on 2 or 6Radio.  So what bias are you meaning particularly, Dock?  Corbyn IS news, and maybe I'm being dim but I haven't sensed any vibe for or against him from the Beeb.  I have from the Daily Malice, which I do not buy or take much notice of, and fuck me they hate him like he's a lesbian royal migrant foreigner, so he must be doing something right
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
I hear this 'BBC is biased' allegation a lot but weirdly it seems to be from all political sides.

I only listen to the BBC TV news at 6pm and maybe a couple of radio news on 2 or 6Radio.  So what bias are you meaning particularly, Dock?  Corbyn IS news, and maybe I'm being dim but I haven't sensed any vibe for or against him from the Beeb.  I have from the Daily Malice, which I do not buy or take much notice of, and fuck me they hate him like he's a lesbian royal migrant foreigner, so he must be doing something right


They seem to give a lot of air time to people who are against him. And the correspondents spout 'what if' scenarios/knackers about what would happen to the country if he became leader of the Labour Party, never mind Prime Minister. How can they possibly foretell what would happen. It's just conjecture on a massive scale. This isnt me personally flag waving for Corybn, I'd be the same if they were doing to a Blue.

PS I cant believe you even look at The Daily Mail. I wouldn't wrap chips in it, let alone read it.
Frazier Cranium

I'm an adult, Dock, I know can you believe it?    I am bright enough to a) not pay for offensive shit called a newspaper and b) not believe everything or much at all that I read in there.  They all lie about football so how on earth anyone can believe what they write about the serious things in life is beyond me.  

Regardless of newspaper name, I have never ever read their politically biased shite, which effectively is ALL the political 'news' that's printed.
fartcatcher

Last I heard Lord Snooty and his pals believed that the Beeb was a hotbed of communism and wanted to sell it to Murdoch.

It has it's faults but it's a bleeding sight better than Fox News.
Dock

Frazier Cranium wrote:
I'm an adult, Dock, I know can you believe it?    I am bright enough to a) not pay for offensive shit called a newspaper and b) not believe everything or much at all that I read in there.  They all lie about football so how on earth anyone can believe what they write about the serious things in life is beyond me.  

Regardless of newspaper name, I have never ever read their politically biased shite, which effectively is ALL the political 'news' that's printed.


I'm not doubting your judgement or intelligence it's just that you said you knew what The Mail was saying about him. So from that I took it that you would at the least, glance at the paper. I totally boycott it to the point of not allowing it in the house or reading its front page on a news stand by averting my eyes. That's how much I detest what newspapers have become. Look at this thread.......

http://regdafishthinktank.com/about14061.html
Frazier Cranium

Sudoku Players Have Rights too.

Some of the Daily Malice's headlines are amazingly offensive and inciting, so yeah I admit to knowing what they're up to.

In fairness, I heard that Corbyn was a 'holocaust denier' via a web forum.  

ps I also do the Scrabble in the Malice's puzzle pages, I do not buy it, I am a second-hand, at least two days late 'consumer' of the rag.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

fartcatcher wrote:
Last I heard Lord Snooty and his pals believed that the Beeb was a hotbed of communism and wanted to sell it to Murdoch.

It has it's faults but it's a bleeding sight better than Fox News.


Not actually correct

The UK has no equivalent of Fox News and no 'right wing' or libertarian radio whatsoever

In fact any broadcaster or newspaper that doesn't follow a liberal left agenda has the absolute shit kicked out of it by rest and their journalists can forget ever getting any work from the Beeb which is a vast broadcasting empire
Frazier Cranium

Are you joking there, SBC?  How do the press have the absolute anything kicked out of them?

and if the media is so biased then they're not doing a very good job of it, looking at the shower we have in power, they have no influence this evil left wing group you suggest. I've asked loads of times about this bias, what evidence is there?  All sides of the political scene have complained about the bias in news and current affairs programmes.

And the top selling newspapers here are...?  It's a genuine question.  But I suspect they'll be the poor right wing and oppressed newspapers.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Frazier Cranium wrote:
Are you joking there, SBC?  How do the press have the absolute anything kicked out of them?

and if the media is so biased then they're not doing a very good job of it, looking at the shower we have in power, they have no influence this evil left wing group you suggest. I've asked loads of times about this bias, what evidence is there?  All sides of the political scene have complained about the bias in news and current affairs programmes.

And the top selling newspapers here are...?  It's a genuine question.  But I suspect they'll be the poor right wing and oppressed newspapers.


What I mean is the continual piss taking and attack on the Daily Mail, Daily Express and anything owned by Rupert Murdoch (e.g. Sky News, Sun, NoTW, Times) by the BBC, every satirical show or stand up comic, just about every BBC radio station, The Mirror, The Star, The Guardian, The Independent and all those other hypocritical newspapers who hacked phones and blagged but then supported Hacked Off and wanted to see some sort of castration and nationalisation of outlets that weren't liberal left

And another question - have you ever seen in the last 20 years a right wing comedian on the BBC?
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

Plenty to go on here:

http://biasedbbc.org
Late Doors

And another question - have you ever seen in the last 20 years a right wing comedian on the BBC?  



Well there was Jim Davidson, then Jeremy Clarkson and just lately Nigel Farage. Hmmm yeah i see what you mean.

Come to that where are the right wing comedians anywhere? ITV, BBC, ch4 anywhere? I think with the exception of PJ O'Rourke there isn't a right winger anywhere who has ever made me laugh on telly. Well not intentionally anyway and certainly not with any charm or wit.

Hardly surprising though is it. How can anyone who advocates punishing the poor and weak for mistakes they weren't responsible for produce anything other than a cruel sneer

How can anyone who sees things only in the confines of their own little bubble of satisfaction be anything other than a person completely devoid of the empathy required to be funny

How can anyone who perceives the world and life itself in terms of what they and they alone have and use themselves be the tiniest bit qualified to examine the humour in life.

How can anyone who celebrates the survival of the strongest and restricts the opportunities to those born on the wrong side of chance even begin to understand the universal oneness of humour let alone talk about it.

I suppose we could start with that right wing nut job David " more austerity is required" Vance who runs that hysterical site you linked. Im sure ive either seen or heard him on the BBC. Might be wrong there but if im not ...... talk about biting the hand that feeds

So the Guardian and Independent operated phone tapping did they? news to me and everyone else I suspect, especially their lawyers.  

Not just the BBC Dock. Even the Labour party are scaremongering themselves and anyone else still listening to them that someone with an actual committed agenda of social justice, fairness and opportunity is the devil incarnate.
Sir Bulldog Craggwood

I'm sorry but the left don't have a monopoly on compassion and decency just like 'the right' don't have a monopoly on selfishness economic competence liberty and drowning kittens

Do you know this is still a pretty brilliant country compared to the rest in terms of equality, opportunity, a welfare state, free health and education, etc etc despite there only ever being 7 Labour governments in British history?

Do you know it was the wicked Tories that expanded the franchise, granted home ownership to millions, protected this country from Fascism and Communism, gave equal marriage to homosexuals, are the only major party to be led by a female, granted a proper Hillsborough Inquest, apologised for Bloody Sunday?

Or does that not fit in with the 'lower than vermin' narrative?

Just have a look at some of the wackier views of the Fabian Society, the SWP, The CPUK, Communist China, the National Socialists and all the rest

You choose what you want to believe and what you want to read but heres some info about lefty titles hacking

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/node/49546

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-new...despread-mirror-titles-court-told

http://www.thedrum.com/opinion/20...ng-milly-dowler-story-court-hears

http://www.independent.co.uk/news...ce-at-the-newspaper-10268458.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news...an-at-murdoch-papers-9996698.html

Why wasn't the Mirror closed down? Why isn't Piers Morgan put on trial?

I can't say for sure but maybe haven't heard about these things because you never buy a conservative newspaper or take your broadcast news from anything other than the BBC monopoly
fartcatcher

43% of newspaper columnists public school educated
26% of BBC execs public school educated
7% of 'the public' public school educated.

Nothing changes - the 'Establishment' still runs the country in pretty much the same way as it did when McMillan was PM.
Frazier Cranium

Been offline for a week.

But to answer that question about ever seeing a right wing comedian on the BBC, it depends how right wing you want to go.  If you want a racist, antisemitic Holocaust denying comedian then I'd answer NO, and then ask isn't it illegal to spout racist guff etc? so I don't really expect to see such a sort.  But if you mean comedians who have some right wing wit in their repertoire, as well as Jimbo D, and Bernard Manning, there is also Frankie Boyle and Jimmy Carr who are pretty close to abusing minorities and taking the piss out of easier targets etc.

And why is it that ALL political parties complain of bias by or on the BBC?

And with respect, SBC, because I like you and I don't fall out over politics, I can't even be arsed addressing your point about the poor Mail etc being picked on, they're all bad as far as I see, but the Tory supporting rags are definitely the most insidious and callous.  If you don't realize or recognize that then I feel a tad sorry for you.
Late Doors

"Do you know it was the wicked Tories that expanded the franchise, granted home ownership to millions, protected this country from Fascism and Communism"  (whats happened to the quote function ???)

Touching tribute to the 30000 international brigade that. Volunteers from around the world travelling to Spain to support the democratically elected republicans  to fight Franco's military coup. Half never came back. All under the indifference of Stan Baldwin's and Nev Chamberlain's Tory government whose tacit support for Franco was only matched by their gutless attempts at appeasement of his fascist ally Hitler. I'll give you the Churchill angle though but let's not kid ourselves we had some amazing luck on top of all that incredible bravery

30 million dead Russians might have disagreed with that assertion as well as half a million Brits, all Tories?

Stone me, i knew the Tories are intent on re writing the history books bit do they really believe that?

How exactly did they save us from communism then. Korea? All this paranoid fear of communism has done is cost millions of lives not least in Vietnam.

Anyway, back to Corbyn. Two views of the Corbynphobia within the party itself. Both spot on in different ways. One from Frankie Boyle

http://www.theguardian.com/commen...losing-its-own-leadership-contest

and one from Patrivk Wintour about what would happen should he win

http://www.theguardian.com/politi...ario-confrontation-or-cooperation


ending with this ...

Another New Labour missionary admits: “We are the victims of our own mistakes and we lost the mainstream of the party over a decade ago, much of it due to Iraq. The Blairites have become the lost tribe. We let the discrediting of New Labour happen first under Gordon Brown and then it became Ed Miliband’s raison d’etre. Nothing constructive was put in its place, everything was hollowed out and it has caused this huge vacuum.
“As a result, the party has been taken over. It’s going to take two years of electoral defeats and a lot of hard thinking and organisation before this can start to be reversed.”
Late Doors

Do you know this is still a pretty brilliant country compared to the rest in terms of equality, opportunity, a welfare state, free health and education, etc etc despite there only ever being 7 Labour governments in British history?

Yes i do and all because of the Labour and Trade Union Movement. You really think thse things would have happened without them, wether in goverment or oppostion ?

Presume you are talking about Thatchers right to buy? The same policy that coupled with an almost ceasure of new builds has created the chronic situation we are in today.

And i regularly take the Telegraph, mainly for the sports but enjoy (usualy ) the wider read, and for the record the company of quite a few Tories or does that not fit your view of anyone with anti tory/austerity views

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