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carp

babyshambles

carp

carp

Grind

It's like bloody radio one with all the repetition on here.
Grind

Quite good though.....
Frazier Cranium

Saw them at a festival 3 years ago.  Always thought Pete Doherty was a twat.  I still do.  But it was a good gig and he was better than I'd expected, good singer and decent frontman.
Dock

Anybody who’s more famous for taking drugs than they are for the music they make is off my radar. The double standard of him being seen by some as a cult figure for being a drug addict but a strung-out heroin addict in a Leeds council flat would be classed by the same people as a scumbag, makes me want to puke. His songs may be good but the furore that is made over his exploits puts me off him. I’m probably missing out on some good rock n’ roll.
smiling badger

Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.
carp

Elvis, Holiday, Hendrix, Morrison, Moon, Vicious, Lynott, Winehouse, Turner, Dee Dee Ramone....Love them or hate them they all died from it. The list of those that live will be endless. If the media followed Presley around like they do stars of today history may well have been different still. An addict is an addict, whether a rock star, a movie star or living in a social housing flat. Glorification of it is clearly wrong but should that media clamour for a front page shocker be allowed to demean the impact of the artist, their material and influence?
fartcatcher

He's from Nuneaton. He keeps quiet about that.
Dock

smiling badger wrote:
Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.



Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.
smiling badger

Dock wrote:
smiling badger wrote:
Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.



Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.


Maybe not Babyshambles but The Libertines were quite highly regarded back in the day. Not that im a great lover of them. But they were and he was seen as a great writer of songs  and front man. All be it for the wrong reasons. But thats Rock'n'roll, man.
carp

Dock wrote:

Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.


Is it not subjective? I cannot stand Springstein and think every thing he has done is utter shite. He is a global super star and I know people who went multi venue to see him recently. Me, if he came on TV it would be off quicker than Clarkson.
Plastic Man

carp wrote:
I cannot stand Springstein and think every thing he has done is utter shite.


*sends Obergruppenführer Butts a message via the Enigma machine*

**anticipates that there may not be any further communications from carp**
sheeps

Plastic Man wrote:
carp wrote:
I cannot stand Springstein and think every thing he has done is utter shite.


*sends Obergruppenführer Butts a message via the Enigma machine*

**anticipates that there may not be any further communications from carp**



Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

*leaves country*
Nyles O Cranium

I agree with Dock but unfortunately that's 'rock n roll celebrity' (man) for you.
Grind

sheeps wrote:
Plastic Man wrote:
carp wrote:
I cannot stand Springstein and think every thing he has done is utter shite.


*sends Obergruppenführer Butts a message via the Enigma machine*

**anticipates that there may not be any further communications from carp**



Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

*leaves country*


It's just some are more entitled than others.  
Late Doors

I'm a fan, maybe I'm reading the wrong papers (or is that the right ones) but I haven't heard anything about him for a couple of years. I'm not sure he is responsible for the media attention, I like to think he just lives his life how he wants and if people want to read about it then that is their prerogative. If they want titillating by other people's lives fuck em, the idiots.

Love that track vey typical of him and it floats my boat alright. He has a instantly recognisable style vocally and instrumentally and  a good lyric, what's not to like ?.

Went to see the Libs in Mancland and the fecker didn't turn up though
bearing

fartcatcher wrote:
He's from Nuneaton. He keeps quiet about that.


Haha, hardly surprising!

I too tried to avoid them because he was 'an arse' according to the media but I liked the stuff they did so just thought fuck it and started listening to the stuff.  FFS I was a huge Chili Peppers fan and I'm pretty sure their drug record would make Doherty look like a veritable choirboy.
bearing

Dock wrote:
smiling badger wrote:
Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.



Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.


But isn't the fact that nobody talks about that 'great Babyshambles song' because he has been pretty much vilified by the press? I'd suggest that they've done stuff as good as The Mondays.
Dock

Not at all. The press doesn't decide who's talented. Good music smashes through anything especially such a poisonous thing like the British tabloids.

As for him not turning up at the gig LD was at. Cancelling a gig is disappointing but just not turning up when punters have made the effort and paid their hard earned is the most un-rock n' roll thing I can imagine. What a twat!
Dock

Ok another example. Kurt Cobain. Him and his girlfriend were serious drug a users but did anybody care? I certainly didn't because the amazing music him and his band made rendered all that other negative stuff obsolete. Will PD ever make anything as musically astonishing as the Nevermind album? I doubt it. Leave the rocking to the those who can rock and you just carry on not turning up to your own gigs and trying to look elegantly wasted outside magistrates court hearings with a cig in your mouth. There's a good lad. Now run along.
bearing

Dock wrote:
Not at all. The press doesn't decide who's talented. Good music smashes through anything especially such a poisonous thing like the British tabloids.



But they can quash it before it even gets a chance though. Don't forget he started Babyshambles because he'd just been 'booted out' of The Libertines because of his substance abuse and told to clean his act up before they'd accept him back.

The press were on his back even before Babyshambles had a chance. I know I thought he was a cock because of it and it took me a while to listen to their stuff. Most of the other artists we've had mentioned here I think have become famous for their music before becoming infamous for their dalliances with drugs.
smiling badger

bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
smiling badger wrote:
Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.



Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.


But isn't the fact that nobody talks about that 'great Babyshambles song' because he has been pretty much vilified by the press? I'd suggest that they've done stuff as good as The Mondays.



I was just using the Mondays as an example really.
But now you are making me think what Babyshambles is as good as some of the Mondays.
Sorry, cant think of any.
bearing

smiling badger wrote:
bearing wrote:
Dock wrote:
smiling badger wrote:
Its the media that makes him more famous for his drug taking.
To be expected i guess. I wouldnt miss out on some decent music just because the guy is a junkie.The Happy Mondays and the likes of were just as bad but some saw them in a more cheeky Mancunian kind of way. They were no different to Docherty. Junkies.
Just dont buy the news papers that think that his life is far more interesting than a war in Syria.
I guess thats most of them though.



Hang on, I'm not getting at him for taking drugs. But at least with the Mondays or Hendrix people talk about "That Classic Mondays song" or "That classic Hendrix song". They don't talk about "That classic Babyshambles song". What I was getting at is that he hasn't produced a song or an album that overshadows the other stuff in his life.


But isn't the fact that nobody talks about that 'great Babyshambles song' because he has been pretty much vilified by the press? I'd suggest that they've done stuff as good as The Mondays.



I was just using the Mondays as an example really.
But now you are making me think what Babyshambles is as good as some of the Mondays.
Sorry, cant think of any.


It's all subjective though innit.

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