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bearing

And roll titles, after 5 minutes....

So, it's something that has happened on US shows for years but has started to appear here. That 5 minute segment before the titles start the show, why can't they just run 'em and start the fecking show instead of poncing about?

Well?
Well?
Well?
Forest

It's called a 'cold open'
bearing

Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


It's stupid that's what it is.
Dock

Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.
bearing

Dock wrote:
Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.


yes
Forest

Dock wrote:
Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.


Exactly, a teaser to grab your attention.
bearing

Forest wrote:
Dock wrote:
Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.


Exactly, a teaser to grab your attention.


But surely if you're watching it then they've already got your attention.
Forest

bearing wrote:
Forest wrote:
Dock wrote:
Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.


Exactly, a teaser to grab your attention.


But surely if you're watching it then they've already got your attention.


How often have you seen the credits of a show you dont really watch then turned over, loads I bet. This way your already watching thinking you want to see what happens next.

My daughter is doing media, I've been reading her text books, very interesting.
bearing

Forest wrote:
bearing wrote:
Forest wrote:
Dock wrote:
Forest wrote:
It's called a 'cold open'


Never knew that. So is it like what used to happen at the start of Cheers and Hill Street Blues. Bit of a scene setter then launch the titles? I think it works on some shows but not all.


Exactly, a teaser to grab your attention.


But surely if you're watching it then they've already got your attention.


How often have you seen the credits of a show you dont really watch then turned over, loads I bet. This way your already watching thinking you want to see what happens next.


Nah I'm not gullible like you, you'll be trying to convince me about that fictional show you all talk about.

The cable or summat.
Plastic Man

It's a while since I've been to the US, but don't they have more frequent advert breaks on the telly than us, so this is a way of breaking programmes into ad-friendly chunks. I seem to remember they typically have an advert break after the cold open (thank you Forest) and the title sequence, before the main part of the show.

Is it just me, or are the ad breaks on non-mainstream channels now even more interminably long*. A re-run of a standard BBC-type programme which fits into a 30 minute slot (so I guess is probably around 28 minutes of actual programming) have 40 minute slots on, say, the Gold channel.

Similarly The Simpsons when shown Channel 4 or Sky is given a 30 minute slot, but when it used to be BBC, had a slot of only around 20-25 minutes.

*I'm not sure that something can be longer than interminably long, but if you put 110% effort into thinking about it, you'll get my drift.
Nyles O Cranium

Part of the screenwriting course I did a few years back, involved writing an episode of whatever sitcom you chose.  And going on the one page equals one minute screentime way, you had to write 20 pages.

I wrote an episode of Frasier.  It was shit, I'm not too ashamed to admit it .  We were told that with Frasier, y'know the end bit where it's usually an unrelated sketch scene almost, no dialogue?, only UK editions got that, the Yanks didn't have that 'bonus'.  I didn't believe it but the lecturer was adamant.
Dock

Nyles O Cranium wrote:
Part of the screenwriting course I did a few years back, involved writing an episode of whatever sitcom you chose.  And going on the one page equals one minute screentime way, you had to write 20 pages.

I wrote an episode of Frasier.  It was shit, I'm not too ashamed to admit it .  We were told that with Frasier, y'know the end bit where it's usually an unrelated sketch scene almost, no dialogue?, only UK editions got that, the Yanks didn't have that 'bonus'.  I didn't believe it but the lecturer was adamant.


Bullfuckingshit! Everybody knows Adam Ant is the Dandy Highwayman. Lecturer my arse.
Grind

Nyles O Cranium wrote:
Part of the screenwriting course I did a few years back, involved writing an episode of whatever sitcom you chose.  And going on the one page equals one minute screentime way, you had to write 20 pages.

I wrote an episode of Frasier.  It was shit, I'm not too ashamed to admit it .  We were told that with Frasier, y'know the end bit where it's usually an unrelated sketch scene almost, no dialogue?, only UK editions got that, the Yanks didn't have that 'bonus'.  I didn't believe it but the lecturer was adamant.


I'm pretty sure most shows here do have a "disconnected" bit they throw up at the end (after an ad break, naturally) for no good reason.

Thank heaven for DVR machines - the adverts here do my noggin in.
Forest

Nyles O Cranium wrote:
Part of the screenwriting course I did a few years back, involved writing an episode of whatever sitcom you chose.  And going on the one page equals one minute screentime way, you had to write 20 pages.

I wrote an episode of Frasier.  It was shit, I'm not too ashamed to admit it .  We were told that with Frasier, y'know the end bit where it's usually an unrelated sketch scene almost, no dialogue?, only UK editions got that, the Yanks didn't have that 'bonus'.  I didn't believe it but the lecturer was adamant.



I've never seen that happen on Frasier. It's the credits with the 'tossed salads and scrambled eggs' song and that's it.
fartcatcher

At the end of Cheers I always used to wait until someone said 'Goodnight Mr Burrows' before I switched off/over.
bearing

fartcatcher wrote:
At the end of Cheers I always used to wait until someone said 'Goodnight Mr Burrows' before I switched off/over.


PM has to wait for the butler before the tv is switched off/over.

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