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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:48 pm    Post subject: Drinking n' that  Reply with quote

At the start of this year I chose to abstain from drinking. I'd been grazing on alcohol for a while over Christmas and thought I'd knock it on the head, just to see if I could and if it would bother me. It didn't, which surprised me as I love my real ales etc. I managed just over five months without a beer or alcohol including a two week holiday to Spain. My mantra was never say never to having a drink again, but to just see if I could do without it. I saved a fortune (approx. £80 a month) and had the best sleep I've ever had. Then one sunny Saturday afternoon in June I was walking the dog and thought: "Fuck it I'm going to buy some beers". And that was the end of that.

My big question to myself was: Am I so socially constructed that I just can't go without a beer forever? Is it such a part of socialising/ our culture in Britain that I can't stop myself, even though I abstained for a considerable length of time? And is it a mild form of addiction, to just 'expect' or think that I 'deserve' a beer?

I'm abstaining again from 1st Jan. Mrs D is going to give it a go as well. I think being an older Dad has led me to think about totally cutting out things that are bad for my health as I want to stick around for Dock Junior as long as I can.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky one for me. I have an addictive leaning. When younger that would include cigs, drugs and booze. Reigned it in to booze and spent a few years right on it. Some tosser convinced me I was an alcoholic. Worked it out on my own that I wasn't. . Can now have a dry day, a dry whatever, a coffee, a pint, a glass of wine or go on a piss up. So in my experience, listen to yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gone from drinking every day of my life to, well I don't know what to these days.

Never and I mean never without booze in the fridge at one time, these days I will pick up a pack now and then or when folk are visiting. Still love a wet mind'st when the urge takes me but my tolerance level has plummeted also. Went out last weekend and did a gallon, felt like a total car wreck Sunday, never suffered from [believe it or not] hang overs before.

I think it's probably a good thing that the drinking impulse wanes in most folk, there is so much out there to to stay conscious for.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three ace posts, particularly this.

"Then one sunny Saturday afternoon in June I was walking the dog and thought: "Fuck it I'm going to buy some beers". And that was the end of that. "

Brilliantly put

What a complex relationship we have with alcohol. Im not surprised many cultures wont tolerate it. it spreads across every element of society, social, fiscal, physical and phycological yet to forbid it seems week. To not allow an individual to make a choice is the epitamy of oppression and the ultimate admission that humans are not fit to manage the planet.

Im  with carp on the listen to yourself mantra but to be cognisant of good information around. Also sheeps with the effect of age on consumption. Another wise chap told me that once alcohol affects your behavior in such a way it makes you feel ashamed about what you keep doing or saying its time to have a look at yourself. Advice has always been if you think  you are drinking too much you probably are.

Since we are in confessional mode, early October i fell foul to a couple of malaises that have periodically troubled me throughout my life and for the first time in my life i thought i was drinking too much. Both of them combined to floor me for about six weeks. I haven't had a drink since then and im 95% mended. I too dont intend to stay drink free ( i miss certain elements of it too much) but ive certainly done some soul searching about it. I've loved the freedom to drive to gigs and restaurants, the sleep like Dock and the health side effects like better skin. Like sheeps I've hardly ever had hangovers but i now get the groggy post hibernation lethgargy a good long sleep gives you. Yep, late '50s now and I'm listening to myself.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a social drinker but seeing as I am a very antisocial person it isn't a problem.

Seriously I have never really wanted to drink at home although do endulge myself on a Friday night to keep Mrs H happy. Love to over endulge when I go out though but have never seen the need to do it on a regular basis. In fact if I am totally honest I am very fussy about what I drink and most beers, lagers and ciders don't taste nice to me. Waits for the hoots of derision but give me a bottle of Corona or Modello washed down by a pint of Old Rosie any day.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can take or leave it but I truly do love a good drink. I can leave it for months and go out on a three day bender, with the right company - not many of whom are around to drink with these days. No time for all those real ale IPA  chocolate stout fads, had a cracking pint of Grolsch in Brighton after the match the other week in some pub called The Battle Of Trafalgar. Then had a session on Kronenberg and Jagersmister in the 3 Hulets the Monday after. Apparently, I'm banned for life now. At home I'll drink Sangria but still don't think you can't beat a good cup of tea.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a bit of a shock the other day. Lad who works for me, only 30, bursts out 'that's three months dry'. Further quizzing revealed he had been a signed up member of AA for years.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My consumption has dropped to a couple of pints twice a week and maybe a bottle of wine shared with the mgmt. I've always been a lightweight on the alcohol front and that's probably not a bad thing.

I've also never really drunk shorts after some dodgy early experiences. Similarly Guinness. Just one sip makes me retch.

Most of my mates are the same. I think having kids made me grow up a lot. I never saw my Mum or Dad pissed and I decided that my kids would never see me pissed either. Plus, there was all those years of Pete's 24 hour taxi service meaning that drinking - often on Friday and Saturday evening just wasn't an option.

I've still got a couple of mates who generally drink 20-30 pints a week - most at the weekend. I worry about them. All claim to have been given a clean bill of health by their doctors, but I'm just waiting for one of them to drop dead.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've still got a couple of mates who generally drink 20-30 pints a week - most at the weekend. I worry about them. All claim to have been given a clean bill of health by their doctors, but I'm just waiting for one of them to drop dead.


I hope they appreciate just what a great patient mate they have
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutsyke wrote:
Can take or leave it but I truly do love a good drink. I can leave it for months and go out on a three day bender, with the right company - not many of whom are around to drink with these days. No time for all those real ale IPA †chocolate stout fads, had a cracking pint of Grolsch in Brighton after the match the other week in some pub called The Battle Of Trafalgar. Then had a session on Kronenberg and Jagersmister in the 3 Hulets the Monday after. Apparently, I'm banned for life now. At home I'll drink Sangria but still don't think you can't beat a good cup of tea.


Did the 'ban for life' happen because of a change in your behaviour after drinking alcohol?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, no. I'm a happy go lucky drunk unless I've had Whiskey which is something I steer well clear of, not that that's difficult. We always break my mate's balls that he finds the cheapest pubs to drink in, so I told him I'd get him banned made a faux display of offering out pretty much everyone while been held back. The chaps just laughed - I'm not noted for my fighting prowess indeed I'm better know for finding pubs to have a drink and a laugh in in the midst of the dark days of football hooliganism - but I was out with the wife's best mate - also one of my best mates - a lovely woman who was a bit worried for a moment.

Never been impressed by people's ability to drink loads. More impressed by people who can have a good time and go home at a reasonable hour.

I've gone years without a drink in the past
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too, although to be fair it was in the '60s


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