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Big Gold Dream: Scotland's Post-Punk Music Scene

 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Big Gold Dream: Scotland's Post-Punk Music Scene  Reply with quote

Don't know much about this era (far too young n' that) but I enjoyed this BBC documentary. Focusing on the story of/ and the bands associated with Fast Product Records in Edinburgh and Postacard Records in Glasgow in the early eighties. Worth a watch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/a...f-scotlands-post-punk-music-scene
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I caught the tail end of that lot, first single I bought from those labels was Chance Meeting by Josef K. The good people at Jumbo helped me track down the still available Postcard singles - G Betweens I think I Need Two Heads, plus the Josef K singles and Orange Juice, bar Falling and Laughing. A lad I knew said he saw the Fire Engines at The Warehouse - A band came on, tuned up for 25 minutes then left - I got most of their stuff from record fairs, Candy Skin is a great tune. Been a big fan of Davy Henderson since, Win, Nectarine Number 9, Sexual Objects who's single Here Come The Rubber Cops is the best bit of Velvets inspired music I've heard in years. Friends Again went on to become The Bathers, both tremendous. I've yet to see the film. If I could work out Proxy serves I'd rectify that. Sounds fantastic.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, quite the aficionado eh Cuts. I think it said that Postcard released something like eleven singles and one album. Limited output but it seems the ripple of those few releases were important enough for their reverberations to be still talked about all these years later. The one thing for me as somebody that didn't know this music well, was that the documentary didn't play many lengthy clips of the actual songs. Lots of great interviews but I would've liked more music.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could never find the first two Aztec Camera singles at a reasonable price. Fast released stuff by Joy Division and Human League I think also, possibly The Melons or Gang of Four.  The NME always seems intent on creating little scenes Bunnymen/Teardrops/Wah/Icicle Works and Scottish guitar bands seemed to get their turn also.
A lot old the stuff I bought was down to the guys in Jumbo seeing what you came in and asked for and suggesting giving another band a listen. It is the only record shop I have ever used where I've been told take it home if tpu don't like it bring it back.
I like The Bluebells, Altered Images, the later bands on Swamplands label, Win, James King And The Lonewolves (not to everyone's taste) Memphis, Bourgie Bourgie. I like how a lot of bands from Scotland at the time really seemed to mix up Al Green and Chic and The Velvets. Although it was years before I heard a Velvets so g and then, woah.... Try find Davy Henderson talking about the Loaded album on You Tube. He's passionate about it. With the later bands it seemed Big Star were massive, Teenage Fan Club etc... I never not Big Star. J&MC had that Velvets love and early Primal Scream stuff a Bryds vibe, they weren't great but they had something. Topnand bottom, I like guitars.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got curious about Big Star ages ago because Teenage Fanclub used to always be namechecking them. When I first heard them I didn't get the fuss, I just thought they were another AOR group but one day quite a few years after buying the double cd of their first two albums I played it again and I GOT them. Something just clicked with me and then I knew why they have their reputation as one of the great lost bands. Great guitars and singing if you ask me...I know you wont.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have Netflix - there's a very good documentary about Big Star just come available - https://www.netflix.com/search?q=...;jbv=70276014&jbp=0&jbr=0
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen that, enjoyed it. Still don't get what sets them apart. It's cool, be a bad world if we all liked the same thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think because they came up in 72/ 73 which was a deadzone for melody generally and their story is so beset by record label and management and distribution fuck ups and underachievement that Big Star has taken on a virtual mythic status somewhat beyond the actual music produced. The film is excellent on Mamphis and the music scene generally but there are gaps in the story any casual Big Star watcher will know about - Chris Bell's sexuality, for example.

I think Chilton's admired by many for his couldn't give a fuck attitude and the way he could leave songs undeveloped and unrecorded that other writers would have killed for. He had no commercial ambitions whatsoever. Robert Pollard of Guided By Voices is the modern equivalent.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of my "missing bands" thing ive been doing checking out things that passed me by originally has thrown up Big Stars #1 record album and i love it. Can only endorce what Butts and Dock say and will check out the Docu stuff. Got the Scottish Docu on t'player to watch later.  The Post Card stuff made a big impact on me but cant recall the Fast stuff tbh


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